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In my opinion, the only 'sad' part is that so many were too lazy to keep up on their CEU's (Continuing Education Units). The state did the right thing by suspending these people, and firing those 'instructors' that allowed/assisted in perpetrating this action.

I haven't ridden a motor since 1972, but I agree with that last comment

If people are afraid of getting negative posts.. they should post with better quality but then again, you can't make everyone happy. a few people got tons of negatives for pretty much no reason... anyway.. I like the idea of knowing who gives you positive rating.. but maybe not negative. it might start fights.. just saying also, maybe if elite members can get that same feature edit: broken images for the blog list on main page. member statuses not showing up on main page either

Plenty of things in politics is motivated by one thing politics... and religion. 2 things... politics and religion. /end channeling of Monty Python: Spanish Inquisition skit It's one of those things that's implied with how it's written. If politics and religion is linked world wide, why specify "in the Muslim world?" Agreed. Unfortunately, the entire issue with the thread topic is people thinking that only Islam can be abused or manipulated.

Having watched the argument/debate/stone-throwing between Dwayne and Ruffems, I am reminded why I sometimes get frustrated with some of the threads. Dwayne, I don’t always disagree with you, but in this case, I will. OK, Ruff’s post didn’t provide ALL the details; however, he did quote his source, and if we disagree, or have more questions, maybe we should look it up, and build a case as to why we disagree. You shot down his post as being crap without truly arguing the other side based on more than opinion. I expected you to come back with “the statistics you gave were inaccurate because on website _____ the federal/state/municipal statistics show that there is racial profiling,” not “offer my passionate, and contrary point of view.” (yes, this last quote was directed at Herbie, but it shows your focus throughout this thread so far). A point of view does not prove another’s wrong. I expect that when someone argues against my posts, that they do it with facts that show my post was in the wrong, not just in a “...lets not spew statistics that seem to make your point but we all know don't actually do so.” Actually, contrary to your statement “of posting irrelevant shit and pretending that it supports your argument,” the site Ruffems quoted has a pretty significant breakdown of the figures, which actually does support his argument. So, let’s take a look at the statistics provided on the Raymore police department: Statewide population over the age of 16 (based on 2007 census) : Whites 83.95% Blacks 10.72% Local population over the age of 16: Whites 90.79% Blacks 4.25% Now, we also have to take into account that Raymore is a trade centre for a large area, and a suburb of Kansas City, and that police stops will include those that don’t live within the limits of Raymore. If we turn the number of stops, searches, and arrests into percentages, we find the following: Percentage of stops: White 88.047% Blacks 9.85% - does this prove racial profiling? Based on the total population percentages, it appears that the police department is not targeting a specific group Percentage of Searches: White 80.94% Black 14.38% - does this prove racial profiling? Maybe – we have to consider if the search was based on plain sight evidence, which is also in the document provided by Ruff.. Percentage of Arrests: White 77.29% Black 17.13% - does this prove racial profiling? Maybe – we have to consider if the search was based on plain sight evidence, and if the arrest was based on scene findings or on a previous warrant, which is also in the document provided by Ruff.. I could go into more and more detail, which could take pages and pages…. The point I am trying to make is that too often I see someone’s post get shot down based on opinion more than fact, and when statistics and links are provided, rather than looking at them and studying them, they use the “stats can say anything” line. It is a shortcut, and a copout, rather than doing the research to effectively argue against the other poster. OK, I am done derailing this thread.

No, I'm no hypocrite. I'd have said similar things If I thought someone harmed a patient out of disrespect. I was a prep myself, dyed my hair blonde, dressed beyond my means. Fit in where need to, it's their life to live or ruin. It's our job to put the wheels back on the track, in case they want to get to the next station.

Your a real winner...........and to support wendy....please....