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I can see where you are coming from on this one, crotchety, and from a religious standpoint, you are right. However, morality does not necessarily have to be based on religion, as Dwayne stated when he gave the definitions of morals and ethics in one of his later posts: Morality/ethics can be related to a particular group, not necessarily religious. In this case, I think Dwayne’s intent was to discuss this with regard to EMS staff as a group, without religion being involved. The focus is on the obligations of us as EMS workers to do no harm, and protect life, and the potential conflicts if we had to deal with this situation. Oh, and crotchety, can you please get rid of that “Bed Intruder” video that always shows up on your posts? It slows down loading my screens, and sometimes locks up the page. Thanks.

"Are you bleeding?" DO I see massive blood loss? Is a baby popping out? If I don't i'm not going in I'm not looking unless both of those questions are 100% affirmative. Who wants to be up in someones nasty junk? Hahaha