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Your grammar is STILL so terrible, I took the liberty of rewriting your post, so you have an example of how to present yourself professionally to what may be you next employer. My grammar is not 100%, but jeez girl......

Well has anyone notice the OP hasnt returned any responses gee wonder why. I am also surprised that Dwayne and Squint haven't jumped on this one, and if they do KN you will see what true Experinced EMS professionalism is all about. Most of us have been in this profession for 20+ years myself for 15 years. I have seen stupid at its best but let me tell you, a mentaly ill person banging their head until they knock themselve out, while doing naked reverse snow angels, and then the next comment about a flashlight shoved up someones ass IS NOT FUNNY. The OP got what he deserved from the others in this forum. Caring for Mentally ill people is skill that is learned from experince and the Warm and Fuzzy approch with most will just get you injured or killed. I for one have made the wrong post in these forums and I got the rath of the group and YES I learned my lesson. Now if the OP came back and said Hey your right this was in bad taste then the whole thing would have had a different tone. KN here is a little bit of friendly advise, Come back here when you realize that your little bit of schooling in the Warm and Fuzzy AKA ICARE bites you in the ass and that the people here have more experince than you will get in your career because you will be injured or killed with your attitude and learn from this forum. When you have had your pt try to punch the crap out of you because you took their high away, and you were to busy holding their hand instead of thinking ahead and having them restrained. When you have a severe head injury that tries to beat the crap out of you because you were to busy saying sweetnothings and not realizing that the pressure in their head is causeing the violent behaviour and last but not least when that young person is so strung out on drugs, and you forgot to do a good RBS and find the knife in their pocket because you were initiallizing ICARE they try to stab you. So you really should take the time to read some of these experienced people older posts and realize that in the EMS proffession is not full of Patients who really give a crap about your warm and fuzzy attitude. The old guys here have seen it all, they will share their experinces, some are crass and blunt but they have earned it. And to the OP this was really in bad taste, and there was nothing funny about either of your posts, I think Troll is a very good discription of you. Tyler we have seen you grow from a teenage wacker to someone who now has something mature to contribute in the forums. Happiness

HNNEE = Head Neck Nose Eyes Ears Interesting predicament. Before I respond, I'd like to give you a little background on me. You see, I started as volunteer in 2004 (both at an ECA and EMT-Basic level) as a first responder for several groups. It was always an expectation that there are certain rules that are followed to be able to run as a first responder. That included the fact that if you were the primary care giver, then you completed the reports and turned them in in a timely manner. I don't ever remember being given a free ride just because I was not paid. It sounds like you already have an established policy that "it's okay because we can't get anyone else to do it". You need to change that and soon. So, my two cents are as follows: Bring everyone together and let them know what is missing in their "performance". You can do this without beating them in to submission. You need to set the expectation up front. Otherwise, they don't see the reason for doing it. Give a class on effective report writing and give them scenarios so that they can practice. If they are only running a few calls now and then, do this practice at your meetings to keep them refreshed. Remember, report writing is a skill just as is taking a blood pressure. Maybe have them rotate as QA/QI and have them read each other's reports. This will give a better understanding of exactly what is missing. As soon as you see information is lacking, have them do addendums. Hold them to the standard you expect. The more you come back to them, the more they will get it right the first time. Don't be afraid that they will all quit because you are asking them to do what they've agreed to do. It just may be that they need the prompting. Toni AKA finally, a paid paramedic!

I have read and reread this post and cannot figure out how it can be considered ‘unprofessional’ or even accusatory. Is it because I chose to use more direct language, or that I didn’t use the same ‘soft tone’ that you did? I posted those definitions because its clear that you have confused the definitions, and I felt it was appropriate to define the terms and point out that while they can be applied to employment, they are not as interchangeable as you think they are. Just because someone considers their job a ‘profession’ doesn’t make it one. I know some people that are quite comfortable thinking that their job makes them more important than God Himself. Does that make it true? Since you seem to place so little significance on the definition of the words, should I also presume that you also take the same glib approach to the definitions/descriptions found in the DSM IV? This isn’t about patient advocacy. I noticed that you’ve mentioned the ‘core values’ of EMS. It’s apparent that the original posters stories have violated all of them. Because we have chosen to point out the errors of his ways, doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re being ‘mean’ or ‘bullying them’. Furthermore, just because we have chosen a different path to point out these errors, doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re wrong in the way we did it. Since you’ve decided in your own mind that because I haven’t taken the same approach to dealing with the issues of the original poster’s comments, that I’m wrong, a bully, and just a downright ‘mean person’ who is ‘verbally attacking’ him, how is it that your constant berating me (and anyone else who disagrees with you) any different than what you’re accusing us of?

What made you choose drugs over electrical cardioversion? Agreed on the pads! what criteria did you use to deduce aberrant tach?

I find neither of your stories funny, nor do they qualify as even being 'slightly amusing'. That you attempt to justify the 'humor' makes it that much less funny. As far as your second 'story', your lack of professionalism makes things even less so. It's apparent that the day your class was taught about professionalism; you were either asleep, or you thought it applied to everyone BUT you. Your actions and your lack of maturity are the antithesis of what those of us that are SERIOUS about our profession are trying to accomplish. Your attempt at casting aspersions (the attempt at using 'rookie' as an insult), only makes you more all the more reprehensible. There are many that regularly post in these forums that have more time in service than apparently you've been alive. Rather than lash out at those who DARE to chastise you for your actions, maybe you should view this as a 'teachable moment' and learn proper ettiquette and professional demeanor from those of us who are quaified to point out your errors in judgement. Congratulations, you and your contemporaries have succeeded in setting EMS back to the days of it's inception. I hope you're proud!

Rookie? None of us are rookies... .I think it is you who needs to go read some books, lets start with basic spelling and grammar because you lack both. Storey? let's try that again, it's Story. You come in here making light of other peoples emergencies, pain, and misfortune, and expect us all to laugh along? I do not think so. Please come back when you gain the maturity and composure to conduct yourself in a professional manner.

I get to work as a SWAT Medic, I am certified as a paramedic also. That is part time/volunteer for the local Sheriff's Department. I have over 30 years experience in EMS, last 20 as a paramediic. I have known and worked with most of the team in one form or another on the street before coming on the team. I have 22 years in the Army, lots of good training there. I am a certified SWAT operator and will probably go to the FBI school this year. I carry and own my own M4, Glock 22 and back up piece a Glock 27. If you are not on a team one of the training schools would be good credentials to have but most require an affiliation with a SWAT team. I know a lot of the teams are actually requiring you to be a police officer first. Best to explore the possibilities of teams in your area get some experience then try for the big city stuff. This is just my experience and humble opinion. What ever you do enjoy and learn.

I think you fail to see humor at all. The humor is the fact hes naked and doing reverse snow angles.. Get outta here with that treat first crap ,.. my job is to provide medical help to the sick and injured what the ******* you think i did just stand there ? lol go read your books or somethnig rookie. to the rookie Heres another funny call for ya's I had a 22 yom who had asked his girl what it feels like to get it up the A** and she showed him , with a flashlight and tennis ball at the end with a condom of over the whole concoocktion and well it got stuck.............. yes while greeting the pt i sstated and quote ( alright , which one stuck the flashlight up his ass )) true storey.

Direct quote from KNDOUG1 in different thread "I just recently finished EMT school...It was definitely an exciting experience. Just from the limited amount of ride outs I have done and from the people that I have spoken to, EMS sounds like a great career, but I have to say that it wasn't as hands on as I thought it would be. You said that you were not sure where you want to go next but that you have a desire to be hands on with your patients...nursing school will give you more hands on interaction with your patients than working as an EMT or Paramedic, but all of these are great career choices...I spent time doing a hospital rotation and when I compared that to the ride outs on the ambulances, I noticed that in the hospital as a nurse, you get to spend more time with your patients. Where on the ambulance it was 10 or so with them and then you pass them off. So if you are looking for something to give you time with your patients, nursing school may be a better option...but it just depends on what you are really looking for. Good luck with school and everything! ~Kristina So in your several weeks/ months experience as an EMT B tell us how many times you've made a difference in peoples lives. Then in ten , fifteen 25 or 40 years come on back and see if you still believe in the granola crunch life, warm & fuzzy BS that was obviously imbedded in your brain by a proud member of the fruits & nuts society of California is all sunshine crap that you are lecturing us with. Once you've dealt with the dregs of society for years , with an occasional sweet little old lady who really needs your compassion and hand holding, let us know how it works for you. In reality you will spend most of your calls trying to figure out which agency needs to take charge of your pt. The corrections system, the mental health system or the local undertaker. My guess is you won't last very long based on the thousands of newbies I met over the decades. tough love is sometimes needed. It's time for you to open your eyes and have a reality check sunshine.

Funny stuff ? Heres a funny call . Medic 340 , respond to 21st and broad for male running through the street , reports of self inflicted injurys . copy control , responding 21st and broad medic 340 As we arrived on scene i was exspecting to see this guy running around and well hurting himself in some kinda way . As ro my dismay , hes naked ! yes , naked as a j bird . He is doing a reverse snow angle in the middle of the road while banging his head hard into the pavement until he finnally passed out . Well thats all the funny for this storey but i can say it was hard not to laugh . Nate