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Now this is important... Do you have an old, nearly dry rotted, rubber hose available to be cut into 3' lengths?

PRPG, While I'm not working in the EMS frield, yet, I feel I can still disagree here. A doctorate would be for performing research and advancing the field from the academic end. If there's a group that thinks this is possible, I think it can only help the field. A PhD would not be performing in the field, but rather doing research, so one doesn't have to wait until emergency responders (basics, paramedics) earn higher status or education levels. A PhD can be independent of that. A PhD in EMs is not going to be some sort of super medic, but a perhaps an ally in advancing the field (not necessarily the profession, though hopefully that too).

So PRPG says we should have a professional masters and Jake simply has a lack of vision. Read. I also feel that there is some misunderstanding of exactly "what" a doctoral degree "gets you." You don't spend years in school (doctoral program) to "get" anything. You spend years doing intense research to "give" some knowledge back to the community. Most people who obtain a doctoral level degree aren't given any type of privileges (not withstanding the ability to obtain tenure in a institution of higher learning). It simply says that you spent a significant amount of time researching something in your particular field and that you've defended said thesis in front of a committee of peers in academia. I'd like to remind everyone that while the practice of prehospital emergency medicine is relatively simple in the grand scheme of things, there is more to our profession that just the skills we do in the back of an ambulance. There is provider safety, patient trends, injury epidemiology, EMS management, and host of other things that can and should be studied. Having a doctoral program just promotes this research. Please, more constructive criticism.

There is one type of provider that makes EMS look much worse than the shithead that you're talking about...It's those that want to enter this profession yet can't be bothered to write above the 4th grade level. Should you be pissed at this guy? Yes you should, and if you have a hair on your ass you'll do something about it. But you should also start in your own house. I don't care if you're ranting or raving or creating a PCR...spell, then spell check, then re read to make sure you're grammar is acceptable. Don't post shit that makes you look like an ignorant child in a thread that you've started to complain about people making EMS look bad..OK? Dwayne

I stand by my post. I do not have a lack of vision, you sir have your head in the clouds. If you want to pursue a doctorate by all means, go ahead. I do not however think you would find enough ppl to support such a thing. As evidence, as you stated, the lack of BSc programs currently available.

OK, Niftymedic, I swore I wouldn't do this, but I just can't stand it anymore. I don't know where you get off stating that our maximum response time is 8 minutes or less, and that heads would roll if there was any response time longer. I work for the same agency as you, and I have been on plenty of responses longer than 8 minutes - even for witnessed cardiac arressts. We are just too damn busy with not enough trucks. Please stop making us sound like the be all and end all of EMS. It only makes us sound like a bunch of whackers. It really makes us sound like whackers when you claim that actual, REAL units responding arrive by the time "you set things up". I don't know who told you that we are encouraged to carry and stock our own bags with county supplies, but I'm afraid you're mistaken. And I sure would like to know where you purchased that liability insurance. I can tell you that the county will disavow you regarding anything you do off duty. Its all on you dude. By the way, you sure do use that CTDRTF syndrome stuff a lot. Do me a favor - if you ever happen to see either me or any other member of my family anywhere, anytime - LEAVE US ALONE!! Do not stop, do not call anyone, do not do a thing! Please leave us for the professionals. I really am sorry that this post reads like a personal attack, but I guess it is. Its a personal attack to me every time I read some of this whacker crap. We really are a professional agency, with many fine providers. I know this is going to piss you off, but you will gain much more credibility when you stop portraying yourself as johnny on the spot who provides supremely superior patient care until someone else arrives to take direction from you. As soon as I hit the send key on this, I will probably regret it. Maybe I will even get kicked off this site for publicly printing such an obvious attack on an individual. I hope not, but I JUST CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE OF READING THIS STUFF!!!! PLEASE!!! Come back down to earth and join the human race. Portray us as we are - an EMS agency that certainly strives for the best, frequently falling short, sometimes meeting our own expectations of ourselves. Take consolation in the fact that all this is really pretty anonymous, and you can always come back down to earth, and no one knows who you really are. If you can do that, I will be the first invite your participation in a professional discussion and quest to learn. To Admin. - sorry, I just couldn't stop myself. This was just too personal.