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Sorry Island, but right and wrong are not different, they are always right or wrong, we just choose to try to blur them to get the outcome we want. For instance: answer this, "If you were hungry, would it be ok to steal a fresh baked pie from someone's window sill, or a piece of fruit from the grocery store ?" Many would answer yes, but that is not correct, stealing is stealing -- just because you have an unusual circumstance in your life does not give you the right to take from someone else (it's like Obamacare LOL). The definition of being a responsible adult ? Doing the right thing when no one is looking ! JNG, you should not feel guilty about turning them in. It is like I have said many a time, if you ask my employees how many people I have terminated in the last 5 years, they would come up with a number (I dont know how many have been terminated). But if you would ask me, I would say I have never terminated anyone in my whole career; the employee terminated themselves by their actions or inactions, I just filled out the paperwork for them.

Where in AZ are you Saundra? and watch out for the letch montsters - Artikat, I'm looking at you.

Ysaundra, Welcome to the big city, there is no better place for EMTs. Good luck in your job quest. I miss Arizona, was stationed there in the Air Force.

I suspect that if these cheaters were to get out into the field hey wouldn't have one another to rely on either when they have to do that med math they cheated on during their exam.

Well here's a thought, maybe confront the cheaters and tell them it's got to stop. let them know that you won't tolerate it and the next time it happens you will nip it in the bud right then. Tell them that you work very hard on being honest and you don't appreciate cheating and you just won't tolerate it. put them on notice and say "if I see you doing it again I'm going to the instructors" That might be all that is needed. But I think you also need to go to the instructors anyway. Even if you don't confront your friends(so called friends) you have done your part in keeping your academic environment clean and honest. In every class I've ever attended, cheating was grounds for removal from the class. My thoughts are this, if you know about the cheating and you allow it to continue then you are just as guilty as the cheaters themselves.

I don't know your institution, but where I work, we have to be very careful about academic dishonesty. I basically have to catch somebody in the act or have them confess before I can take direct action. This is probably for the best as everything else is simply hearsay. Unfortunately, you've probably done the worst possible thing. You waited and watched the cheating occur and only now are you going to say something in the form of a letter without any direct communication with the class instructors. The sooner I hear about possible problems, the sooner I can make changes and watch a bit closer. Unfortunately, there is little I can do when I receive a letter after the fact. Do not take this as a personal attack, only as the truth regarding this situation. Sometimes you have to speak up and go out of your comfort zone, otherwise you have your current situation where you have allowed students to cheat through the entire course. This is probably a good lesson to learn and it will apply to clinical practice as well. Many people will simply stand by and watch another person harm a patient because speaking up takes you out of your comfort zone. Instead of preventing a potential patient care disaster you could end up here talking about a situation where you watched somebody do something harmful. Again, take this post in the context I intended. Make this a learning experience.

Thank you that does help, guess I should make time soon and take it.