I think that mikeymedic's point was that it's pretty easy to cast stones in an internet forum. We've all made mistakes, but sometimes that fact seems to be forgotten in these types of threads. I think that he was also trying to point out that posting over and over on the obvious problem, instead of exploring the possible solutions, is also what sometimes happens in these threads and maybe shouldn't be the goal of an educational forum. But that's just my read on it.
I've been arrested for DUI, 30 odd years ago, been arrested for fighting, for drinking, and another time for fighting and drinking (Like to bring things full circle when I can. I'm goal oriented that way)...all stupid shit that my generation of 'cowboy redneck' did at a younger age. Yet I've managed to turn into a halfway decent husband, father and provider..hopefully at least.
Though this thread has gone completely off in the ditch, I do think that it's been worthwhile and productive simply for the peripheral things that have been addressed...