I know you are not in the United States. I've known that. Nothing new. But look, I never meant to convey you lack morals, I just thought your views on this subject were lacking in them. That make sense? I thought my counterpoints explained that, maybe I failed in that respect... I can only take what I read on here and go with that, unfortunately I do not know you on a personal level where I may have a better understanding of what you post. So much is lost in text alone when having conversations and at times I do miss the finer points of expression via text, it is a downfall of mine.
Maybe we are talking about two different patients. I've only applied physical restraints once myself and chemically restrained a slew of other patients. Its just not something I take lightly, which I thought you did. Anyways, my idea of a patient possibly needing a restraint procedure is usually the patient I meet where within the first minutes of arriving on the scene we are already in a physical situation that is not deescalated by other means. I took your examples to be the patients that hint at violence, had a previous episode of abnormal/violent behavior, and the like. I guess for me I tend to try and treat on the current situation and have yet to have a patient "turn". This may be the point where we are not seeing eye to eye, different experiences... different thinking process...
Anyways, try not to take it too personally, please. I've had my thoughts and viewed slammed on here more than once and I think I'm better since most of it. Hope this helps to ease tension and improve understanding.
G'day