spenac

Bougie is a stylet. It is also easy to use.

Come on Ruff, Cowboy up.

Really no need for a fancy mode of transport if just a few times a year especially.

Just load body in somebodys pickup. That would leave ambulance free and get body where it needs.

What if the person aspirated so much popcorn there was no point in even trying intubation and .................................................................

Really what is the complaint NR, state, in house. It does not matter this was an entry level exam. Are the complainers telling us students that we will get stupid after we finish school. Crap keep up your education and even w/o a chance to study you should be able to pass an entry level exam.

Rig isn't that like a big truck often referred to as an 18 wheeler. Bus carrys kids to school and yes some ride the short bus too. Bus also carrys people in big citys to shopping or travelers from one town to another. Ambulance or Mobile Emergency rooms I see pro's and cons to cameras, but many of those have been discussed here in an earlier topic on same subject.

If they're removed much harder to prove medic screwed up. Plus probably less traumatic for family to see them w/o all the tubes.

And if has some unknown medical problems could kill him.

Lol. Dwayne notice my signature. Sincerely the kindler gentler spenac.

Develope a method of working and documenting. Any variation from the normal document why. If you touch any "no-no's" document why. Disclose that you visually or physically did things. Then there is no appearance of hiding your actions thus less likely to be proven guilty if not guilty.

Keep in mind I am one of the cowboys you refer to and I am one that feels your method of continuing was wrong.

Oh a survey to decide just how crazy we all are. Probably deny renewal if you answer wrong. :twisted:

Crotch discussion is great. But you have came off as a royal jerk rather than someone willing to discuss. I was on the side of c-section, amputating, etc. But you honestly just started belittling peoples intelligence and morals. On this site in discussion we can all say what we think we would do, but you know if it ever happened who really knows what we would decide. I do apologize if that seems blunt rude etc.

Oh crap Dwayne I hope they caught the Dustitis before it became terminal. :twisted: And rereading I see I may have gone in to a fight w/o justification. Docs comments do seem to be more putting a possibility out there rather than a fact.

Wendy though I said I would c-section please do not say you included me in that sarcastic comment. I played nice even though we were on different sides of the discussion. :nike:

UMMMMM the fool, no the other fool, no not that fool but that one.

Dust I disagree. He has chosen to antagonize rather than discuss. Had he been discussing then his scenario might have been worth the time to discuss. In fact many of the comments in this and other topics remind me of another person that chose to antagonize and was banned, but I could be wrong. Not trying to pick on you crotch but you really are coming off as for lack of better word as a jerk, not saying you are a jerk but that your posts come off that way. And if you are not a previously banned poster, Sorry.

Looks like this discussion has ended as good as a rotten potato, in the trash. Sad though was good at times.

A search will bring a similiar discussion to life. Oh never mind you meant public transportation I missed bus reference.

Medical control said amputate I amputate. Guy is dead if not maybe will anyway but at least give the guy a chance.

Heres the article: http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/6231088/detail.html Paramedic Charge Raises Concerns Police Charge Fire Employee With Misdemeanor Wednesday, January 18, 2006 January 18, 2006 -- The El Paso Fire Department responds after one of their own is arrested on sexual allegations. During a press conference Wednesday, El Paso Fire Department Chief, Roberto Rivera, addressed the issue. "I want to reassure the people that the behavior that was alleged is in no way condoned and is addressed immediately when we hear a complaint," said Rivera. Until the case is settled, Chief Rivera says Lieutenant Joe Montenegro has been relieved from duty. Montenegro was arrested and charged with official oppression, which is a misdemeanor charge. In the criminal complaintm the victim alleges that during a semi-conscious state in the back of an ambulance "she felt someone touch and suck on her breasts." Later tests showed Montenegro's DNA on the victim's breast. KFOX questioned police about applying the less serious misdemeanor charge, as opposed to sexual assault. Police officials responded that it didn't meet the criteria, offering no specific explanation.

Dwayne are you really sleep deprived? Ruff just stated the fact that we need facts presented before you say all molesters are basics. Actually most reports I have found show it to be the Paramedics. As a fellow poster that has always promoted different opinions I feel you are in the wrong attacking Ruffems. Docs statement not question did make it sound like he was saying basics. Ruff basically said show the facts before attacking basics. Just saying.

Crotch why are you trying to force your opinion on someone? If they choose not to answer they may feel as I do that it is really not pertinent to the discussion. Would I go above written protocol? Yes as in the written protocol I have instructions to consult medical control for addition direction if needed. So if I do a procedure out of general scope I am covered. Some services do not allow this. As many say we could all throw what ifs till we're blue in the face and honestly all will have to make the choice based on what is happening at that time. Heck if ever faced with the choice I might actually change my mind. Known of us can 100% say until we are placed in that rare situation.