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Cost of living is high. If pay is not great you are in for a very limited existence in paradise. Friends of mine moved there and never got to enjoy it as every penny they made went to survive. They lasted two years and are back in New Mexico. Maybe somebody from there can give you better advice.

I have carried many unrelated patients. They want care they give up some rights. I have literally gone from one house to another, to another, etc. All loaded with me alone to do treatment. Thats life in rural EMS. No other ambulance and 90 miles to hospital you do whats needed.

Why so bitter a response? The OP just brought to our attn what he felt was new. This subject of compression only CPR has been addressed recently though. I do hope it will encourage the public to at least attempt to help even though CPR is futile in the majority of cases. My concern is how many will do CPR on people that have just fainted. Walk up to average Joe citizen and most can not actually find a pulse. They know general area but not well enough to know a person is definitely pulseless. Heck I have found pulses on patients that EMT's said were pulseless.

My lands folks, city ambulances are so spoiled. Just load them both. And take anybody else thats on the way. Still plenty of room when both are BS calls. It's not that difficult for one medic to take care of two or more basic patients. I like having multiple patients, it keeps me from getting so bored.

We could go back to this: http://www.emtcity.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.ph...ght=bash+spenac

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Please try and post more professionally so we can try and help you.

Good ideas except for joining with fire. Actually communitys need to change money from fire budget to the EMS budget. Fire and EMS are completely different fields and have no business together.

Well duh it will be DwaynePain. J/K Congrats Dwayne. Maybe someday I will be finished to.

Open your eyes read the posts and you would see those are required.

Yes acupressure would be great for discomfort such as OB and others where pain meds are not really needed. But I guess I look at it based on long transport times.

I got it one piece at a time and it didn't cost me a dime. Good use of a classic song to illustrate a point.

First the accreditation requirements will be met based on conversations with both schools. I have no doubt as both schools owners are involved heavily with NR. Rid you are exactly right about the classes being more in depth and actually requiring much more time. There is more research required in these programs than any of the standard classes I researched before starting my paramedic. I do not know how many actually flunk out or just quit theses classes but I know several at my current job quit the EMT-I program because as they roughly put it it made them study stuff they would never need. They were addressing understanding in depth processes. I guess they thought it would just teach them to start IV's and push meds w/o requiring knowledge. As far as NR exam passing rates last I heard it was around 95% of those that passed the courses. If you can pass the course final exam you will pass the NR. I took 2 courses @ www.techproservices.net when Jane and Gene were still basically in charge. So I am sure their new school www.percomonline.com will be just as good. The people that are operating techpro are still tough and doing a good job as I can attest to based on the paramedic program I am in with them. I have always enjoyed self paced online or distance learning. When in high school in the 80's I took correspondence course from Texas Tech University on top of my regular school load. Those and similar college courses I guess would be the precursor to online education. And to go back to the 1940's I found engineering correspondence books that belonged to my grandfather. So distance learning is not new. I really guess so many get the wrong idea about it because of all the diploma mills, even though there are even more regular school diploma mills.

I have no problem other than the way written it could cause knee jerk reaction to out and out remove it as a procedure in the field. I would like to see other facts presented besides the negative that the reporter featured. Yes he presented facts but primarily slanted towards the bad. Just my opinion.

These two schools have final exams at the school campus. There are other exams also required on campus. The only gripe I have with these two are they are not aligned with a college. There are a couple of online ems program that are based out of a college but they have a rep as diploma mills.

They are physicians they are not Emergency specialists. I actually hate when I take my patients to the hospital and find a GP rather than an experienced ER doc. Patients think they are getting same care but they are not. It is deceptive practice.

Exactly right I over stated. Sorry. More time will prove one way or the other. Sadly though the results will be ruined by the diploma mills that will pop up, I should say have popped up. And your right portions must be taught in person and they are at the schools above.

Actually even with the higher education required in Canada it is misleading that a person call an ambulance and expect your low level paramedic to do as much as your higher level paramedic. Yes they get a paramedic in name only. The care will be significantly different between the levels. Yet the public only knows I was treated by a paramedic. IMHO it sucks and is deceiving the public. I do not need to know the levels in canada beyond all of you claim to be paramedics which is all the majority of the public will know. Perhaps our basics should start calling themselves paramedics so the public does not know they are getting short changed. :twisted:

You still have hands on classes as well as clinicals. Actually this educates you to pass the National Registry. Does your state take NR? Then it takes this course. This is not a new concept. These are the two people that were instrumental in the first online EMS education first at a college then they opened a private school www.techproservices.net which is still running under different ownership. Now they are back with a new school. Online education has proven effective in every field and has been very effective in EMS. It obviously can not be entirely online, so you will have to spend time at the campus for hands on practice. Now it takes somebody that is dedicated and self disciplined in order to complete these courses. It is not the easy fast way to certification. It is definitely not for everybody.

I just found out that two very influential people in Texas EMS have opened a new school. Jane Dinsmore and Gene Gandy both have been actively involved in pushing EMS to become known for quality healthcare professionals rather than taxi drivers as so many educators put out. Here's a link to their site that will continue to expand to include all levels of EMS education. http://www.percomonline.com/percom/Home/ta...58/Default.aspx I do not own or work for them, but I have seen the quality of their work and wanted to let people know they have another option for education both initial and CE.

But even Canada confuses it's people is my point. They hear paramedic they do not hear paramedic basic or advanced or whatever the heck the call the various paramedic levels. So in the patients minds they have the best care. This is misleading the public IMHO.

Reading this just brought a question to mind. Why do EMS people caught abusing / stealing drugs lose their certification in pretty much all cases yet doctors and nurses just get counseling and a slap on the hand? Is this just in Texas or nationwide that it happens this way? It really is a double standard IMHO.

This is why I hate all people on an ambulance being called paramedic regardless of education. In Mexico I meet several "Paramedics" that only have first responder training. How do I know that? They took the course here in my town with the fire department and now they work as "Paramedics" in Mexico. The public has no clue that there is such a huge difference in skill and education, they only know that a paramedic responded on an ambulance. If education is not going to increase to force all to be at the highest level then we need distinct names for each level so as not to be lying to the public.

Having taken NR and also knowing several people involved with NR, the test is written based on current guidelines, not any one book. Each book is strong on some points and weak on others. I highly suggest that you pick one book for the students to buy, but have a few copys of the others available for comparison. Also even if not required I suggest all instructors go take the new NR CBT exam so they can better understand the process.