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Good answer. He is right. If you disagree make up with passion.

LOL, Dude my [s:8c7843152c]funeral[/s:8c7843152c] wedding was more than 18 years ago. A sense of humor and always saying she is right will lead to a lasting marriage. OK in seriousness, always show your love, open doors, buy or pick her flowers, pause the TV and visit with her, do things she enjoys, let her know what you enjoy, never hit her, never cuss her, never go to bed mad. Hope the two of you a long and happy marriage.

In my paramedic class we are required Brady Paramedic book, pharm book, EKG book, 12 lead EKG book, and others. I have found it beneficial to have the AAOS and Mosby paramedic books also. I also have several additional EKG books. I also have all the alphabet books. I have several nursing and even medical school books. I have spent a small fortune. Of course I live a long way from a library with any medical books so I have had to go out and get my own.

Nope never heard that big word before sonny. :roll: Please don't stir up the crap and get this topic locked.

Hey MAD thanks for sticking and [s:413f581164]arguing[/s:413f581164] discussing, too many new people will not back their statements. In my area we do not have EMD's the sheriff or PD dispatcher takes calls and tones it out as whatever caller says it is. There are a couple that have learned on their own to ask more questions so we get better info.

Thanks Mad and Pat. That makes it clearer. As somebody on truck I would still like to get what the caller stated was chief complaint rather than just the broad traumatic injury not life threatening the combined info gives a better picture to began preparations for call.

Now I could see it being higher than I have experienced with a broad statement like you give. My dispatch calls in like the caller does. If caller says fell and broke toe that is what we get told. In your system bad gas could still count as chest pain. Stubbed toe traumatic injury. So with that broad based dispatch I could see it matching. Does dispatch still say what caller said was the problem in other words - EMS XZ you are being dispatched to traumatic injury caller states they have a broken leg?

I will have to take you up on that because I can not see that ever happening based on how the callers give information. IF I am wrong then I say the entire world needs your type of dispatch. But I will give you it sounds like your system has lots of checks and balances. Maybe some of the medics from your system are on here and can give me there input. We got brats here to. The neighbors little brats have been bugging me all day.

I am not trying to argue just no way in hell that 90% of how you dispatch is what is found. You dispatch as broken leg we find stubbed toe, you dispatch as heart attack we find bad gas, you dispatch as stroke we find diabetic emergency, etc. That means information was wrong, not dispatchers fault very often but callers fault. Your little flip book does not stop the errors it builds on the error. Also do you actually have access to what the paramedics find on arrival? So you sent me out for a seizure do you follow up and record that I found a person that was sneezing not seizing? That or actually matching each run report to it's dispatch record would be only way to prove correct dispatch. Or are your stats actually for getting us to correct location?

Your welcome.

First I never asked about seizures. Second you can not tell me 95% of callers stay on phone and accurately answer all questions. Using seizures as an example we have been dispatched many times to supposed seizures only to find somebody with the shakes perhaps just cold, perhaps fever, but it was not a seizure yet that is what you would have dispatched it as and thus you would have been wrong. Sorry your cookie cutter questions will never make your dispatched as equal what we find 95% of the time as you claim.

I feel your pain bro. :twisted: :twisted: Welcome to the site.

I don't know why but the following pops into my mind: Another one bites the dust.

You said it, not me. To quote you "If they don't want to go easy, I WILL put their faces on the floor, and they're going anyway. Besides it is a little therapeutic." Then you follow up by saying "I say what I mean and I mean what I say". So do you mean what you say? If so then you find it therapeutic to take a person down.

Personally I run a quarterhorse. My current job we have 2007 Frazer, 2 other frazers, wheeled coach, and some others.

Please consider my statements on the last few posts to be protective custody.

Thank you you worthless dispatcher. :wink: I do not know how any dispatcher says what they have is accurate 95% time. No way even if they only dispatch to a community of doctors. To many callers intentionally make false statements like heart attack, stroke,etc because they assume it will get a faster response. This coupled with the ones that just mistakenly think it is something but it really is something else leads to the 90%+ wrong calls. The majority of mistakes are the callers fault not the dispatchers.

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Just Do It! ( thanks nike) There is no need to delay. Very little value in fact probably no value in delay. You can get your experience in the field as paramedic just as well as if a basic except you actually have the education to actually help somebody.

You clearly state it's therapeutic to slam the mentally disturbed person on their face. I don't ever feel refreshed for causing more harm to a person that has needs. While they may not need me and my ambulance they do need help from a mental health professional. Cops may not be medically "trained" but they are trained to take people down and are payed to do it, we are not. You as the "trained" , but I also hope educated medical person on scene are there for as needed medical care not slamming people for your own pleasure or "therapy", perhaps you need to stop by a mental health professionals office and discuss your feelings of needing to use violent actions as therapy.

If you have a violent patient yes the cops put them in custody, they take em down. How stupid it would be for us to put them down on their face. Why is it therapeutic to beat up a mentally unstable person? You want to slam someone enter the cage and fight. Why risk injury and additional lawsuits. Cops jobs to take them down and restrain. Then evaluate and either transport in full restraints with a cop on board or if no immediate life threatening medical/trauma cause let the cops transport. If there is nothing we can do why are we tieing up resources?

I call BS. If caller states they are having a heart attack. More than 90% of the time it ends up they just need to fart, ate spicy food when they have an ulcer, etc. You are claiming that where you you are at all your callers are educated enough to know what is actually wrong with them. BS. BS. BS. Now maybe you are accurate in that you tell the responding unit what the caller stated, but that is almost never what they are actually suffering from. The caller states I broke my leg, we get there stubbed toe, not accurate. The caller that says she has gone into labor, we find she is not in labor she just has pain caused by an UTI. So in conclusion BS .

Welcome all new ones. Hope to get some good forum posts. Welcome to the chat if thats all your here to waste our time doing.

I actually liked at my old job that if at all possible we talked to the caller. This allowed us to gather additional information and get patient or family to have things ready. We did get a better feel for what we were going into. My new job all we get is a tone followed by address and basic complaint. Sometimes on the way dispatch will radio additional info that they have gathered. The thing is in both systems 90%+ what we find does not match what we were told. So neither system is that great and as much as I pick on dispatchers it sucks trying to get people to calm down and answer questions. Thank you dispatchers but never forget I will continue to bash you.

Notice I said "healthy". Premies are no fun. Have fun sliding around in the slime. Just wanting to share the joy of child birth. :twisted: