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Regardless of what the patient did in case that sent me into rant, no justification for the brutality of attack. But again information required for proper treatment that had to be provided to hospital will now be used by attacker to blur the truth and will probably walk or get a easy deal from prosecutors who will know what is coming. Sucks we should be able to legally leave out the info or black out all info except what shows the extent of injurys. It is no wonder so many victims choose to not report or not file charges allowing the attacker to hurt someone worse next time.

CNN Headline news just showed dash cam from an ambulance wreck. I remember instructors telling us if it's serious to grow rockets on the a** end of the ambulance. I have fought to stop that attitude. I intend to go home after the job and take care of my family. The few minutes difference by slowing down a little are not going to cost a person with a real chance their life. In fact a little slower makes it easier for the medic in back to give better care instead of being thrown around like a rag doll thus probably improving patients likelihood of survival. Just my opinion, I've done no scientific research and I don't care for holiday inn express.

Confidentiality. Is our report really confidential? Think about it. A patient is a victim of a crime. In your exam you ask before I give you any meds I need to know all drugs legal or other you have taken recently. You also ask about alchol use. Patient has already been through the ringer. Multiple trauma, besides the mental stress. Patient asks is this just between us. The answer is yes but no. You let them know that you have to let hospital know. Also you should let them know that in court the attacker's lawyer will request all documents. So really no it's not just between you and me. By telling the patient all this they may choose to lie to you and risk harm from our meds. Or if they admit use of drugs or alchol, they are then going to be victimized a second time in court, defense lawyer spinning it to sound like they were out of their mind and caused the event. Shouldn't some info actually be confidential? Recently involved in situation where when exited the patient compartment a person representing the attacker approached and demanded the lab results and what the victim said. Of course told him no and that I could not discuss any patient info, he then said it's alright I'll get it when I file for it at the court. This victim told us a bunch, now all that info will be used against them, with what we were told it will be easy to twist things and victimize patient again. Patients actions did not justify the attack, but a good defense lawyer will make it look like attacker is an angel when in reality attacker needs to be......use your imagination. This just sucks. There is no confidentiality. Shouldn't some info truly be just between care giver and patient? Sorry to rant. Your input, advice, additional complaining, welcomed. Thank You. Rant off for a little while.

Excellent idea. I'll start pulling out a text book and act like I'm trying to figure out how to treat them. If it's definite BS get on some wild exotic part and start reading out loud all the wild treatments I need to perform and occasionally mumbling I never learned how to do that. As the fear creeps into the BS patients face then pick up various tools making sure hands are shaking.......... Sorry just another way to waste time on duty and maybe have fun while dealing with BS.

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Wow even more than I guessed. :twisted:

Wanted to answer the poll but couldn't figure it out. Read it closely. "Do you think the dispatcher should have contacted paramecdics". Whats a para mec dics? Is that something nasty? Must be one of ya'lls big city terms.

Wonder how many ladys here have gone and requested a new 710 cap at the auto store?

Sorry posted about LA. Heres the chicago debate. http://www.emtcity.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.ph...&highlight=

yea all kinds of bullcrap bad for EMS happening

Yup it's been subject of debate all day. http://www.emtcity.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.ph...&highlight=

"Common sense" Whats that? Is it really allowed?

I'm responding in my sleep.

"tactfully" hahaha face full of mace if you don't help inmate. :twisted:

YUP

never crossed my sleepy mind

especially

Why I never, oops nope your right they failed to read entire post. -10

Like they say everythings bigger and better in Texas. :twisted: :nike: :occasion5:

1st time 418, 3rd time 1467.

Stay with the site. Don't get upset. Enjoy peoples experience. I to used to volly. I felt rural could not pay. After looking back it is clear rural areas find money to celebrate holidays etc. This money could be redirected to at least pay per call. Still not much but a step towards professional EMS. As a full time paid medic and former volly looking at things from both sides it is clear that governments can find funding for anything they want, just look into in your area. Start small and work to improve the EMS in your area. Welcome to the site.

Hey I get you now. Definitly this post has took many a turn. I don't like the new AHA guidelines to tell an unseen person to take a med. But as AHA is considered standard of care, if dispatchs medical control follows it's guidelines they would be protected in lawsuits. I still don't think it's right. Don't know if you guessed yet but I don't agree with sight unseen treatment. Next I'll be able to deny transport w/o even leaving the station, ah my dream is closer now than ever. I agree lets get back to the original post. To any I offended I apologize again. Guess this posts twists is what was discussed in the post "WHY" a week or to ago.

No need to private message. If things do go wrong the guy on the phone is of limited use to the untrained person assisting. The untrained person is not going to change the outcome. I have assisted to many woman delivering in my ambulance, including dealing with the worst case scenarios. I respect dispatchers that stay calm and would not want a job where I could do basically nothing to help. The EMD bashing began when Brentoli said " Dispatch will save your ass better then any EMT-B will." Can not agree with that statement. And as others have clearly stated w/o seeing the patients and getting vitals advising use of meds is not a good thing. In the field we find often something completely different than what is called in. IN MY OPINION DISPATCHERS SHOULD NOT ADVISE USE OF MEDS. MY OPINION ONLY. IF YOUR MED CONTROL WANTS THEM TO LET THEM THEY ASSUME THE RISK. JUST MY HALF PENNY WORTH OF THOUGHT. Copper welcome as a poster even though not new to the site by the way. Guess this discussion struck a nerve.