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Sounds like nepotism to me. And what the heck waiting on the state? The state has already suspended him. http://www.newschannel10.com/Global/story.asp?S=11180634 City Manager Speaks Out About Fire Chief Allegations Video Gallery City Manager Speaks Out About Fire Chief Allegations (9-22-09) 2:13 By: Sarah Snyder NewsWest 9 EUNICE, NEW MEXICO - New developments following allegations of inappropriate relations between the Eunice fire chief and a patient inside the ambulance. It's become a topic of controversy around town and at Tuesday's City Council meeting City Manager Curtis Schrader spoke out. He tells NewsWest 9 it was his decision to handle Ron Grogan's position as fire chief not the Mayor's. Here's what happened: witnesses accuse Chief Ron Grogan of heavily medicating a female patient then inappropriately touching her chest. The city began an investigation then put the case in the hands of the New Mexico Department of Health. The state suspended the fire chief's paramedic license on the grounds of sexual misconduct. On Tuesday, the City Manager wanted to make it clear that this is a serious issue and the next step for the city all depends on what the state decides. NewsWest 9 asked Schrader about the accusations that the city let Chief Grogan keep his job because he's related by marriage to Mayor Matt White. Schrader said that played no role in his decision. "That looks to be something that the Mayor has a decision on when it's not," City Manager Curtis Schrader said. "It's my decision. That was one of the reasons that I wanted to make those statements tonight to clear that air that any decisions regarding Chief Grogan's employment or his status with the city is strictly my decision." Right now the city is waiting to find out when the state will hold the hearing. They say that decision will determine Chief Grogan's employment status. The city said quite a few rumors have circulated around town. NewsWest 9 spoke with several people in Eunice but they didn't want to comment on camera. Most are concerned about the quality of EMS services, but city leaders say there will be no change.

Be careful and make sure mykel is not just taking advantage of you. He is legally obligated to report the abuse.

If you are being abused and mykel is not helping you by reporting the abuse mykel is not a real friend. Get help then decide what to do with your future.

You need to seek help with that. Talk to a school counselor. Get those issues dealt with so you don't carry that baggage around the rest of your life.

In a slow system I like 96 hours on which means I'm off for 8 days in a row. It's like a vacation every time I get off duty. But in a busy system any more than 12 hours is dangerous to you, the public, and your patients. Heck 12 hours is to much in some places.

With all the problems with flight as of late and even the questioning of the value of the time saved they may be smarter than the rest of us. With any religion as someone else said never assume that the person feels the same as others of that religion. Still respectfully explain what you feel needs done and let them say no if they feel they for religious or other reasons do not want said treatment. Do not lie to them and do not force your opinion.

Welcome. Be sure and get a great education. Take advanced science classes. Make sure and get college level A&P 1&2 ASAP. Go straight to a Paramedic degree program, many now include basic during 1st semester. Make sure you get and stay in shape. Avoid sex, drugs, drinking, etc.

Cosgrojo you are welcome to dispute my opinion but to be a rude jerk like you have complained of others being is uncalled for.

But Dust we are not all vampires like you. But if not a vampire you learn to adapt or find a new job. Yes EMT is just a job. Not a profession, not a life style, just a job. If you want a profession get a Paramedic degree and by the time your done maybe Paramedic will be a profession.

When will all the people start posting again? I mean I need somebody to be mean to.

Many places you sit in your ambulance and wait. Slower places you do chores, CEU's, sleep so when night comes around and it gets busy you are ready. Often you go w/o sleep or meals.

Your patient has the right to choose the medical care they receive, and that goes for even non religious types. In the field the blood issue will not cause an issue as you probably do not carry any blood products. If a patient informs you of their beliefs and treatment preferences relay that to the hospital. Try and show respect even if you disagree. If they say a women must take a female patient and no female Paramedics available explain this and if they insist you may have to let them take patient instead or if service allows a person to ride see if they would allow the transport in that case.

How old? Any health problems? Any meds?

Heres more. http://www.koat.com/news/20938434/detail.html Fire Chief Suspended For Inappropriate Touching Eunice Mayor Wants Reduce Suspension For Fire Chief POSTED: 1:38 am MDT September 16, 2009 UPDATED: 1:47 am MDT September 16, 2009 ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- Controversy surrounds a fire chief because of his actions in the city of Eunice, N.M., on May 23. "I guess the big thing is we lost a little trust in him because of this issue," said Eunice Mayor Matt White. White said it started with a medical call. Fire chief Ronald Grogan was in the ambulance with other paramedics -- taking a woman to the hospital. By phone, Tony Fuller, a former paramedic who said he was there, claims what the fire chief did next was completely inappropriate. "Ron basically medicated her, with in my opinion, a lot of pain medication," Fuller said. That medication was Demerol and Valium. "She asked him to feel her breast implants and he did. Uncomfortable with that, I went to my supervisor," Fuller said. At the New Mexico Department of Health a commission decided unanimously that the chief's behavior was unprofessional and warranted a one-year license suspension. It is a decision that the city's mayor disagreed with. "It really hurts the city for it to be for a full year so basically I would like to see it reduced," White said. A letter from the health department supports the year suspension of the chief's paramedic's license -- stating there was no therapeutic reason to feel the breast implants -- so it's considered sexual contact toward a patient. "I do believe he needed to be punished. He did something he shouldn't have done," White said. However, the mayor said there's more to the story he is not going to discuss, but he said the city will appeal the chief's year-long suspension. The mayor said he has hired a new EMT so the city will not be short staffed and the plan is to keep Grogan on as fire chief.

Congrats. One piece of advise make sure you disappear for the first poop diaper as that has to be the most toxic thing in the world.

Tober pulls advanced life support certification of 18 more firefighters Posted September 3, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. NAPLES — Eighteen more firefighters are having their advanced life support certifications pulled by Collier County Emergency Medical Services. The move comes at a time when some fire districts may soon propose to county officials that they have their own EMS licenses. Five more North Naples firefighters and 13 firefighters from the East Naples district are no longer permitted to do advanced life support because they failed to do ride-alongs on ambulances as required, said Dan Bowman, deputy chief of EMS. Last week, 25 North Naples firefighters were decertified. The failure to do the ride-alongs means about half of each of the two district’s firefighters are not supposed to perform advanced medical care in the field, Bowman said. Firefighter/paramedics are required to ride in an ambulance one shift every three months to get exposure to administering advanced life support medications and doing procedures which they haven’t been doing while riding on fire trucks, evidenced by data from patient care reports kept by the fire districts, Bowman said. For the most recent quarterly data available from April through June, the fire department firefighters almost never administered medications in the field, he said. The report shows each firefighter administered medications an average of .06 times during the three-month period. In contrast, each EMS paramedic who swaps out and periodically rides fire engines administered an average of 12.2 medications during the same three months, the report shows. “It is the fire departments where we get the patient care reports,” Bowman said. “They have never refuted it because it is based on their data.” EMS paramedics who are strictly paramedics and never ride in fire engines each administered an average of 14.9 medications during the three months, the data shows. “It’s been shown and proven they (the firefighters) have very little opportunity to treat patients,” Bowman said. “A lot of the times it is done in the back of the ambulance.” North Naples Fire Chief Orly Stolts questioned the reports from EMS and said countywide fire district data about the advanced life support medications can be misleading. For instance, paramedics with the City of Naples weren’t administering advanced life support mediations for a while and since 2007, the North Naples fire district’s protocols for medications have been changed numerous times. “We may not have even had access to those drugs,” Stolts said. “You can skew data any way you want to.” In recent months, Tober has been removing unused advanced life support drugs from the fire trucks because he is concerned the firefighters’ skills to administer them are rusty. East Naples Fire Chief Doug Dyer said his district only had 12 firefighters who were certified as advanced life support paramedics and so EMS has been casting a wide net when it decertified a 13th who wasn’t certified in the first place. Dyer said East Naples now has just three firefighters left who are certified. “Their goal is to decertify all of us,” Dyer said. The EMS medical director, Dr. Robert Tober, who has battled with the North Naples and East Naples fire departments over potential consolidation and complained this past summer that firefighters’ cheated on medications’ tests, instituted the ride-along rule in February. Tober said the fire districts jointly agreed to the ride along requirement and have been refusing to comply and he’s been left with no choice but to decertify firefighters. He has told the fire districts they should only do with patients what they do often because that is what they do best, and he says the same policy applies his own paramedics. “Even with our own guys who are falling down in terms of frequency of procedures and drugs, we move them to a busy place to keep their experience and skills set up,” Tober said. The fire departments have been trying to keep as many of the advanced life support medications on their fire engines as possible because they want to acquire their own EMS licenses, Tober said. “Their motivation behind this is to declare their own EMS (status),” Tober said. Tober said North Naples has vehemently denied this but it is now moving forward with submitting documents to the Collier County Commission to seek its own EMS certification. Stolts said his fire board voted five months ago to seek its own certificate of need, which would allow the district to operate its own advanced life support service and have its own medical director. The documents will be submitted soon, he said. The intent is to have an EMS certification but not to do ambulance transports. “Ours is almost ready to submit in one or two weeks at the most,” Stolts said. Dyer, of East Naples, said his district would seek the certificate if a cooperative relationship with the county’s EMS cannot be restored. East Naples’ first move, however, will be to make a presentation to the county commission showing that the district was cleared of any wrongdoing in an investigation into Tober’s cheating allegation . Naples attorney Donald Day conducted the investigation. Dyer petitioned to make a presentation Sept. 15. “We want it to go on the public record and recorded that we did not cheat,” Dyer said.

Yup Tober suspended 18 more, see Lazy fire fighter post I started.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/sep/03/tober-pulls-advanced-life-support-certification-18/

Guess they don't like me.

Guess EMS standards are higher than fire. Seems like he got the best of everything. Got to play with breasts, got to get off the ambulance, and got to remain fire chief. What more could a fire fighter want out of life? http://www.kwes.com/global/story.asp?s=11130728 Eunice Fire Chief Accused of Sexual Misconduct (9-14-09) 2:34 By: Sarah Snyder NewsWest 9 EUNICE, NEW MEXICO - Eunice city leaders are putting out a fire of a different kind. There's strong allegations of sexual misconduct by the City Fire Chief with a patient en route to the hospital on board a city ambulance. To understand where it all started, you have to go back to May. The Eunice Fire Chief and several EMT's were on a medical run and on the way to the hospital. Those witnesses accuse Chief Grogan of heavily medicating a female patient then inappropriately touching her chest. "Ron basically medicated her, with in my opinion, a lot of pain medication," Tony Fuller, Eyewitness and former Eunice EMT, said. "She asked him to feel her breast implants and he did. [i was] uncomfortable with that. I went to my supervisor." Mayor White tells NewsWest 9, after receiving the complaint from the EMT, the City began an investigation then put the case in the hands of the New Mexico Department of Health. "It really hurts the City for it to be for a full year, so basically I would like to see it reduced," Eunice Mayor Matt White said. NewsWest 9 obtained a copy of the letter sent to the New Mexico Department of Health. They suspended the Fire Chief's paramedic license on the grounds of sexual misconduct and unprofessional behavior. "I felt like the City Manager and the Mayor just swept it under the rug and blew me off and didn't take this issue seriously," Fuller said. "He made a mistake," Mayor White said. "He did something he wasn't supposed to do. Unfortunately, there are some other facts to it, at this point I'm not going to say what they are, ecause I don't believe I should." Mayor White says they have hired a new EMT and the city emergency response won't be affected. They plan to keep Grogan on as the fire chief and appeal the allegations. "Ron Grogan has been a great fire chief," Mayor White said. "This is a great disappointment. I disagree with the penalty they assessed him. I do believe he needed to be punished. He did something he shouldn't have done. That's why we're going to appeal it. We feel like it was a little bit harsh for the circumstances." But Fuller says this jeopardizes the relationship with the community. "He's what the public sees whenever they think about our department," Fuller said. "I don't think he's representing the department well. I think it's kind of embarrasing actually." NewsWest 9 spoke with Chief Grogan, but he refused to comment on camera until everything is ironed out in the courtroom. "I guess the big thing is we lost a little trust in him because of this issue," Mayor White said. "Is this going to affect his job as the fire chief?" NewsWest 9 asked. "No. It will not," White said.

Oh and you do not have to name her after me even though you said you would when I saved your life. Spenac is just not a girls name.

It is a myth. Probably some sort of myth to get you to support one political party or the other.

My thoughts are with you guys my friend. Keep us posted as you have time.

www.techproservices.net has a good Paramedic program and works with a lot of out of state/country people. They will have to do lots of research which is a good ideal rather than just sitting listening to lectures.

Wow you are in a rude mood today.