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Okay Dwayne, first off, the responses for murdering the babies in my post were listed. For privacy reasons I did not state which responses go with which scenario or who stated them. I can not. I'm sorry I can't embellish more, but by giving detail could possibly give a parent's identity and I can't take that chance. It would jeopardize our organization. I don't agree with you that a psychological defense is a defense at all. I am tired of ALL criminals getting off because they weren't in their right mind. Let me tell you, there are times I'm not in my right mind, but I don't run out and commit crimes. Maybe it is because the people around them just don't care enough to notice, but they should still be held accountable. Murder is murder! Attempted murder is attempted murder! I do not place those who have had an abortion in the same category as murderers. While I myself could never have an abortion, I also feel as a woman, it is our choice. I do have a hard time understanding why a healthy woman, whose unborn baby is healthy, would want to terminate that pregnancy. I look at the many couples who would give everything they own to have a baby and it makes me sad to know that there are woman out there that feel that an unborn baby is nothing. I also think about some of the parents I have worked with who have suffered multiple miscarriages and will never be able to conceive a baby again. It breaks my heart. I guess the human side of me has a hard time understanding how a woman, who is suppose to have a natural nurturing instinct, could think of her unborn baby as nothing and just dispose of it. The other thing I have seen here several times is more education. Yep, maybe more education is needed. But in the same aspect, a hundred years ago, how educated were the girls. You didn't see them running around killing their babies. I think what it actually comes down to is more tolerance in society than anything. It is more acceptable for young girls to become pregnant. Some one is always willing to find some excuse WHY she killed her baby. The courts are willing to plea bargain and give her a cake walk of a sentence if any at all. In reality, society has cheapened the life of the preterm and term baby. Think of it this way, if this same girl would have walked down the street and killed a 70y/o grandma sitting on a park bench reading a book, where would she be right now? She would be in jail awaiting trial for murder. We wouldn't even be discussing it on the forum. The same standards should be held in this case. You also asked me something to the effect of how many woman that live around me would be capable of flushing their own baby? Well, I wouldn't say that number is zero. As I have said, I have worked with some that have purposely caused miscarriages and even been convicted of murder (one was a father). I would also have to say that I know a few that had family not stepped in, their children probably wouldn't be alive today. This is where those around the woman are at fault. They see things that are going on, yet they do nothing. They close their eyes to it. It doesn't matter if it's a mother, father, husband, boyfriend, friend, or employer; if they see things that are, for a lack of a better word, out of the norm, they have a responsibility to alert some one who can take care of it. But it comes back to the great American way of not wanting to get involved. I maybe don't have all the answers, but I also know that it is a problem. I also know that some of the problem is just plain indifference towards human life. Some is arrogance and the need to project a certain image. The kids of today don't think like they used to. They have been taught that EVERYTHING is disposable and they take that to heart. They have been left to fend for themselves because their parents are too busy living their own lives, so they don't possess the same morals and values that used to exist. It's not so much a generation of kids raising kids but of kids raising themselves. That is truly sad. My upbringing was horrible. The only sunshine in my life was my maternal grandmother whom I didn't see often. My family was then and still is one of the most dysfunctional you will ever meet. I spent many years flopping in the wind. I graduated from high school and had my son two days later. He was a turning point in my life. It took some time but I realized that I HAD to provide him a better life than I had. I gave him everything I could, but the most important thing I gave him was my time and love. I made it a point to be involved in his life and to be the kind of parent I never had. I watched how other parents did it and immitated them. By the time he was five, I had it down to a fine science, which is when I also got married. Unfortunately, my choice in men hadn't changed. Through my divorce, I have taught my children to be strong and believe in themselves. I have also taught them to stand up for what they believe in. I have worked hard to be a part of their lives and stay involved in all that they do. I support them and encourage them even if I'm not so sure it's the right activity (my daughter tried out for football). While being there for my kids, I have also been able to give us a very nice home and I drive a nice car. There isn't a lot that my kids need. They maybe don't have all the newest gadgets that some of the other kids have but that's okay. I'm also helping my oldest get through college, and paying for sports for my other two kids. I work two jobs so I can do this (cause in EMS you can and still be home with the kids). We scrimp and save where we can. So in response to your question Dwayne, even if you aren't born into a family where you are taught to have respect for yourself and life, you can learn it by observing others. Every person has the ability to teach themselves what they really want out of life and who they want to be. It truly depends on what you want and how hard you're willing to work to get there.

Do I have a story for you.....my neighbors son made the not so wise decision one night to drink and drive. While trying to outrun the cops he jumped the curb and hit a house. Uninjured, he was escorted off to jail. While being booked he started complaining of SOB and chest pain. The ambulance was called and the crew responded with all the gear needed for a full arrest (they were prewarned via cell phone). One of the crew members knelt down beside the patient who insisted he was dying and asked him very politely, "Are you sure you're having chest pain?" He replied, "Yes" The crew member says, "Okay, we have to be sure, because if you're not the medication we are about to give you will kill you if you're faking." :twisted: :roll: Prisoner sits up quickly and says, "Wow, I feel 100% better now. My chest pain went away!" The crew signed him and went on their way while he spent the night in jail. The best part, the next morning he decided to start his cell on fire. Now that's making use of all the counties resources: Law Enforcement, EMS, Fire, and Judicial. What a putz! :geek:

Another thing that has to be considered is that many people under 21 are still on what is considered risk insurance. This is why a companies insurance will not cover them. If the insurance company won't cover them, the company can not hire them. The service I work for will hire a Basic at 18 to gain experience in the back of the truck but they are never allowed to drive until they turn 21. They must also go through EVOC followed by non-call related drive time with the manager and then ride-alongs with an FTO before they are set loose.

In the US, a mother who gives birth, can bring her baby (three days old or younger) to any hospital emergency department, no questions asked other than medical history and leave the baby there. The child will then become a Ward of the State. There is absolutely NO reason for any newborn baby to die. I volunteer with an organization that works with families that have suffered the loss of infant whether term or preterm, due to various circumstances. We have worked with several mothers who have terminated their pregnancies and a few who have caused themselves to go into premature labor, resulting in the birth of a baby that was not viable. We have had two families where the baby was murdered. In talking with these mothers and the one father involved, we have gotten the following responses: 1. I'm too young to be a mom 2. My parents would have killed me if they would have found out 3. I wasn't ready to be a parent 4. The baby was taking up too much time in my life 5. I don't want kids 6. No one ever told me that I would get pregnant if I had sex when I was drinking 7. I was raped, really, I was, five different times, by five different guys, in one week 8. I don't know why, I just had to do it 9. My boyfriend said he would leave me if I didn't get rid of the baby 10. How can I go to college with a kid 11. You don't know what it's like to be my age and pregnant 12. Every one was making fun of me 13. I thought my boyfriend would come back if thought I was sick 14. I really don't care, what's it to you These are some of the responses that have stuck out in my mind and I will always remember them as they seemed so cold. Some of these mothers came from low income, dysfunctional homes. Others came from some very well-to-do homes with loving and caring parents. I think they were the ones that were the most cold hearted. It just leaves me in utter amazement that anyone could be so careless with such a fragile life like that. I also know of some mothers who have had to make the decision to terminate their pregnancy due to medical reasons and it was the most agonizing decision they ever had to make. This is why I have such a strong opinion about a person who can just throw their baby away as this girl did. It will continue to happen until the law reaches out and says enough is enough and truly starts punishing them. It should not matter what your background is, nothing makes up for attempting to murder your child. In my opinion, when it comes to a baby or child, there should be no psychological defense. The baby is the victim not the perpetrator. It's time to stop these incidents from happening. I am one of those parents who is very involved in my childrens' lives. I have also let them be a part of mine so as they can see how people are affected by the loss of a child. It has taught them compassion towards others and a respect for life that they may not otherwise have. It has also opened their eyes to the effects of sex before you're ready to be a parent. I will not pat myself on the back for who they are but I will give them the thumbs up for who they are becoming. :thumbright: They have made the decision to take what I have given them and use it to form their very being and that makes me proud as a parent. BTW, my kids come from a low income (although not welfare), single parent home. What it comes down to is having a respect for life and yourself.

I can beat that one....we got called to a private home for an elderly lady who fell. When we got there, she was lying on the floor, her husband sitting next to her. All he needed was for us to get her up and take her to the bathroom, then bring her back to her chair. BTW, she had the sh*ts. Myself, being the newbie, guess who got to help her in the bathroom? At least they were nice people and very appreciative.

I think they should flush the mother down the toilet. It it absolutely ridiculous that some one can claim stupidity as a defense. I really am tired of all these girls and young females who claim they had no idea they were pregnant. I'm sorry but even if you have never had sex education you have to know something if you you've at least watched TV. Enough is enough. Start punishing these people and maybe things like this will quit happening.

The legal age at which some one can drink has no bearing on whether they are going to become an alcoholic or not. If a child comes from an alcoholic family, first of all, they are determined by genetics and surroundings to become an alcoholic. Secondly, the alcohol is readily available to them already. Thirdly, they will make the decision well before the age of eighteen whether they are going to drink alcohol or not. You can argue these fact with me all you want, but I am talking from personal experience and a long line of alcoholics in the family.

Our service currently uses navy emt pants with a either dark blue or white polos (our service logo embroidered on the left breast) for duty. Most prefer the white. We have the white uniform shirts and navy pants for events and dress. I like our choice for duty wear as it does separate us from FF and LEO yet it is comfortable. The pants offer the extra pockets we need to hold whatever it is we think we need to carry with us.

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I agree that if you are old enough to vote, fight for your country, be charged as an adult for a crime, and make decisions as an adult; you should also be given the choice to drink at 18. I live in a rural area and I can tell you without a doubt that the number of kids that get their hands on alcohol and drive around while drinking is astronomical. The way I see it, make it legal for these "kids" to go to a bar and they will pull away from those that are still in high school and underage. We all know that it is more fun to drink with friends in a bar instead of in a car where you could get busted.

I'm not a strong Christian but I have my beliefs. I hold them dear in my heart. I also do not push any of them on my co-workers or patients. I have been asked by patients to pray with them which I happily agreed to do. My job is to make my patient as comfortable as possible. When I come upon a hairy situation I have been known to say a silent prayer while working so that all turns out well.

Well, the medics are off the hook, Jake Brown was interviewed last night on National TV and stated that he refused on scene care. He didn't feel he was injured that badly. He still doesn't think he was injured that badly but plans on taking three weeks off at the most. He had injuries to his neck, liver, hip, arm, leg, and few others that I can't remember. I guess whatever trips his trigger.