Just Plain Ruff

I had a poor soul who didn't survive his brush with fire but I remember the call to this day. Head on collision, ruptured gas line, arrived to find fire trying to put out the car. Fire chief said "you have two patients, one in the pickup bed, the other we're trying to put out". the patient in the pickup bed, bad ankle fracture was her only injury. The guy in the car, basically his skin was melting off his bones. 2nd ambulance arrives, takes ankle lady to the hospital, we wait till they get the burned guy out, determine he's dead and clear the scene. To this day,I can swear that there was absolutely no smell. No one on scene said that there was any burned body odor. It was a very surreal scene. Even pulling up to the scene the color of the flames was different than any other fire I've ever been to. Sort of an initial dark orange which then turned into a pale purplish blue. Very very strange night. Then we were dispatched to another fatal car accident which took the life of 4 teens who had all been drinking. Bad night for kids.

I almost posted that one too Cookie. I find Google to be a great one of my friends at times.

In a nutshell Rule of 9s Each part of the body listed can be broken down to 9% of the body. Add up each part of the body burned and you get a rough percentage of how much of the body has been burned. ADULTS Head - 9% Arms - 9% each Legs - 18% each Chest - 18% Back - 18 % Groin - 1% CHILDREN Head - 18% Arms - 9% each Legs - 13.5 % each Chest - 18% Back - 18% Groin - 1%

yes, have fun with the hands on portion of the class, it's been a while since I took it. KNow your formulas too.

This post is for everyone here, not just Runswithneedles - Runswithneedles, you need to be really careful what you are posting on this forum. this forum is the number one EMS forum in the nation, I think it is at least. Lawyers are looking at this forum. Meth patient, improperly placed ET tube, 2 children watching their father being placed in the ambulance a good lawyer might be able to put two and two together. Far fetched, maybe, Yes more than likely but let's be careful what we post. Your entire post about pounding on that guys chest really showed a lack of indiference to this person. I'll stop there and say it in a pm. Then you post that you shoved a airway down him, I hope you didn't shove it down there, did you cause post mortem trauma? Like posted above, His lawyer is looking and if that laywer is lookin online at these forums, he might just look and put two and two and two more together and subpoena our forum admin again and get your info and pull you in to court and where would you be. Of course you will already be in court due to you being on the run. I think we need to re-visit the What we put on the internet is there forever. It never goes away, it will stand the test of time and after we die it will probably still be there. Be cognizant of what we post and be considerate of what you post.

I prefer the Emt/Medic role I have almost always worked in this sort of role and it suits me just fine. I no longer work in the field, worked my last shift a couple of weeks ago. Hung up my stethoscope. But having a dual medic is nice but I always have preferred the emt medic Don't really have a reason behind that preference. Oh yeah, let's not make this thread into a medic versus basic thread and I swear if I hear that mantra "EMT's save medics crap" well I don't know what I'm gonna do.

ERDOC just get it over with and start calling yourself ERDOCOLOGIST ok it rolls off the toungue easier and we all know you are going the way of kiwimedic anyway. Just messin with ya.

I'm going to incorporate these items in my preppers list as well.

Well I used some concentrated lemon juice from the bottle since I was so tired last night and it seems to have started to work. Today after my paycheck goes in I am heading to the grocery store to empty out their lemon bin and baking soda aisle of their stock. I have a old unfrozen turkey in a freezer story with the power turned off story from my wife's roommate moving out and turning off the power when she was told not to by my wife but she did anyway and my wife not getting back to the apartment for two weeks since we were on our honeymoon and the police were called because they thought my wife was dead and decomposing in the apartment because the neighbors thought I killed her and ran away to mexico story. It's not really that funny of a story since we lost our 1500 dollar deposit and the neighbors were really really mad at us kind of story. But many people can relate.

Ok, it's not really dead body smell but it's pretty freaking close. I had the outlet on a freezer(deep freeze) die on me. Didn't realize it for about a week. I then had the freezer outlet fixed and due to minimal time I took out the unfrozen items put them in the trash and just this past sunday I had the time to clean the rest of the freezer out. So I turned off the freezer and let it unthaw, and cleaned it out yesterday morning. It was to say the least about the nastiest job other than the body recovery in a hot house that I had to do a couple of months ago. So I got the frozen mass of pork, chicken and fatty ice removed from the freezer and now I'm still smelling the nasty stuff on my hands even though my wife says that it's all in my head. I've done the sniff the water trick in my nose to wash off the nasal hairs of the odor molecules. But the hands thing is just unbearable. I don't want to touch anything let alone my daughters or my son. What does this wonderful group of people recommend to remove the smell other than a frontal lobotomy performed with a knitting needle on myself? I've had a recommendation from my mother to go get a couple of lemons and use them on my hands and I don't have the energy tonight but I do have some condensed lemon juice which my mom says should be just the same. Any other suggestions. ON a lighter note, it turns out that the contract with the city I live in, our trash company will take one large item every week and had I have realized that they will take a nasty dead body smelling deep freeze with the disgusting stuff still inside it, I would not have this problem. But live and learn. I'm still open to suggestions.

A two to three day course is meant to do one of two things. Cover a myriad of things only one millimeter thick or cover one or two things an inch thick. Do you want to cover one thing that is plagueing your organization, then bring in one orgnanization that can focus on that item really good and spend 12-16 hours on that subject. This all depends on how much grant money you have to spend. The more money you have the bigger the presentation and from farther away you can bring the speaker(s) from. You also have to remember that you will need to factor in airfare/hotel/logistics into all this as well has speaker expenses. All that is not cheap. Consider that my expenses for my weekly travels runs 250 per day. And I'm not a high paid speaker. Double that amount for a good high paid speaker like Steve Berry. I initially looked into brining a very well known speaker/entertainer and here is what his expenses ran to bring him for a private show for our service club, but more connected people made it happen. but here was the breakdown as to what this person cost our organization. First class airfare(required for both him and his assistant) Premium car rental $800 per diem private room for refreshments and he had a list of stuff we had to purchase for his well being and multiple props luxury hotel suite for him and his props limosine service to and from the speaking venue 35,000.00 per day fees We paid for his assistant (same as above expenses they shared premium car though and private refreshment room) The event was a smash. I had nothing in the end to do with getting him to our event, I just attended the event. But it was an incredible night.

wait, nipple tweaking and rubbing between the legs isn't the way to check for responsiveness, that's how I've been doing it for years. Just what kind fo school did I go to. I'd better go check those magazines and CEU videos I've been watching and verify for accuracy.

Google Fitch and Associates. They are based out of KC MO I believe(I think they are still out of KC) Good group. I don't know if they still offer seminars or not.

Now Spenac, the naked part depends on the fire fighter. If it's some of the firefighters that I've worked with maybe not but some of the ladies, if they were naked, well we need to really decide if bunker gear is really necessary. Craig, I hear you. Taking short cuts and all that. What about re-capping needles. WE all used to do that. Remember back in the day. We didn't give it a second thought. Just re-cap and go. How many of your co-workers got needle sticks. It was just standard practice. New guidelines came in to play. We were told not to do it. But we kept doing it as it was just so easy to do. WE still knew those medics who got needle sticks. That one needle, poke, infectious disease either hepatitis or HIV, ends your career, ends your life. LODD. Taking shortcuts, ends your life. Not knowing you have the disease also may end others lives. Same analogy as the fast driver. It's our decisions that affect not only us but has a cascade affect downline to many many others. WE don't see that cascade effect until something happens. It might not happen now, or tomorrow but when it does the results and outcomes are right there in front of our faces. That's why I agree with your statement of Nipping it in the bud at the source before it happens. Can you honestly tell me that someone driving hells bent to a firehouse to get on a fire truck and then he wrecks his car and kills himself is a hero? What if he was the only medical responder that was able to respond that day and by his not arriving safely to the firehouse that day by causing his death that day caused the delay of medical care that caused the death of the patient that he was originally going to help that day? Can you honestly call that person a hero? I certainly will not put the mantle of hero on that person..

If it's near my boys, only a doctor is going there. Maybe my wife but not with a knife. call your doc. Infections down there can cause all sorts of havoc

oh that's right. Micusi, grab your Galls catalog, go get your jump bag and put it in car trunk, turn on your scanner in your car and drive around and jump a couple of ems calls. that ought to make your cojones grow a bit bigger.

Wow, I cannot even touch that one with a 10 foot pole. Miscusi, how long have you been in the field? have you even had a pregnant cardiac arrest? have you been in those shoes before? I'll bet not? Come back to the forums and we can then talk. Actually my job is to save lives. I've been saving lives for quite some years. Every time I get in the ambulance and go to a call I do save a life or two. As a matter of fact, I believe Mobey posted in a subsequent post that he did save a life and that person was being taken off the vent in the ICU just today. Hmmm so yes it is our job to save lives. I don't normally negatively opine here but I do believe that there might be a village that just might be missing it's idiot out there somewhere. Could you go back and make that village happy please. If you can't find that village, one will be provided for you free of charge. If you refuse the one provided for you then we will kill the village idiot of the nearest village and install you as their idiot. And if you fail to fulfill your duties as that villages idiot then we will provide you an all expenses paid trip to the next village that is missing it's idiot until you have found the right fit. Now start searching and packing. Don't forget a thing as we will not be returning.

Yep I agree with you. It sucks. I've been there and done that. But I can't take your place right now and I don't want to so I will lend you my ear, and give you my shoulder and provide you a tissue.

oooh creative writing. Not that I've written the beginnings of a novel (60 pages of so, oh wait, yeah I've done that) just got to get to 400 or 700 pages and then find a publisher dumb enough to pay me for the privelidge to publish it but that's for a different topic. And it has nothing to do with EMS, yes I do have other pursuits I like to follow.

yep 4 sems 2 american lit, 1 brit lit and 1 international lit liked international lit best. russian/french/polish/slovenian you know the classics