Just Plain Ruff

James, kudos for the clarifications. It explains a lot. The bottom line is We are glad you are ok after this call.

this from someone who's never had 3500 of his countrymen killed in a single terrorist attack. Hypocritical if you ask me.

I believe them pulling you in to the office for what I assume is some type of discipline could be considered big time illegal. It's called Union Quashing and I believe that is illegal. But its been so long since I've been tempted to unionize that I can't be sure. Anyone want to address that.

on the whole matter of the seizure I took care of a person and she was very very very very well known at the hospital I worked at as she worked at the hospital. She indeed would have seizures and could talk during the seizures. Now before slamming me hear me out. she had a specific kind of seizure that was not technically a seizure but her neurologists could not classify it any other way. Her PET scan and many other tests proved it was a seizure even though it did not technically fully qualify as a seizure.

Welcome to the city. There is a lot of good information and good people here on this site. I've been watchin and see a lot of new members being shown. Its on the first page of the site and it says Our newest member is Xxmwnnf or whatever Many of you do not introduce yourself so I'm inviting you to do so. If you haven't already introduced yourself please do so.

Well Uglymedic does have a point. I for one am sorry that we called you a liar. the story was just soooooo over the top that until he proved and showed everyone that the story did happen his credibility was being called into question. James, accept my apology, I thought I tried to say as much in my previous posting but apparantly for Uglymedic it was not enough. Please keep posting here James, that call was a doozy and not one that I'd have wanted to be on with all that went on. take care james and please be safe. was that enough Uglymedic?

James, sounds like this is what we call in missouri a flustercluck the point I was trying to make as well as many others here is this you arrived on the scene of a triple shooting, no law enforcement in sight, you might have seen the cop cars but by your own admission you didn't see hide nor hair of a law enforcement officer. You went into a scene where it was obvious that there were pissed off people and you forced your way out of that scene with your patient. the scene was definately wayyyyyyyy too hot to enter and many of us if not all of us would not have entered that scene. but hindsight is 20/20 and we weren't all there. the story just was too over the top to initially be believed. LIke I said, I'm from Missouri so show me and you did, you posted some fine links to the story. I'm still not sure if i'm buying the 300 people but hey any more than 50 people ona scene and thats a huge crowd. the key thing that I think all of us here want to pound home is scene safety and we are definately glad that you made it out of there alive. Keep your chin up, we old grizzled providers can be a cantankerous bunch and we get our knickers in a bundle sometimes. Just take away the fact that you need to evaluate the scene and determine if it's safe. the last thing you want to be doin is finding yourself in front of the pearly gates of heaven and saying how did Iget here, I was trying to take care of my patient. and St. Peter telling you "scene safety my son, scene safety"

You are gonna catch hell from this post. you entered that scene, remind me not to be your partner especially when your supervisor said that there were shots fired. You are living on borrowed time. Before Dust says anything, naaahhhh I won't touch it, I'll let Dust tell ya But to be blunt and honest - you entered the scene with 300 people a history of a triple shooting, an angry crowd, no pd to be found. I find you to be irresponsible, not credible and incredibly Stupid. There is no scene nor no patient that I would EVER EVER EVER EVER risk my life for and that my friend sounds like what you did. And whats the deal with you getting called on the phone by your supervisor. Don't you have a radio or pager? Or is it easier to get called on the phone I'm gonna have to agree with everyone else so far - I smell a really embellished and possibly cock and bull story with this. I'm from Missouri, show me a link to a news paper article or something. This is something that would have made any paper especially a small town's paper since all your patients in your story were critical. Come clean and give us the real story.

hmmmm first off I think your supervisor is incorrect. but I'm not sure what he's incorrect about as you haven't told us what he told you when you called him. A patient can refuse all or any part of the treatment. The patient can agree to transport but they can refuse all care except transport. They can refuse an iv and meds but allow oxygen. Please give more information as what we have is incomplete. And once that splint is on you had better not take it off. That would be negligent.

Very very many stupid people out there. I say we let the little girl when she gets better run over the woman who hit her.

Imagine you can be credible no matter what you do in life. You don't have to be in EMS to be credible or have integrity. It's not a matter of calls ran or patients treated or taken care of. Its personal responsibility and taking responsibility for your actions no matter what they were. Too many people these days try to make excuses and blame the other guy for something that they should be taking the blame for. I see too many people in my line of work or in EMS in general that say "I didn't do it" when you dang well know they did. When they try to blame the other person and you know they did it. IF you take responsibility for what you do then it shows you have credibility and integrity.

that was funny thanks for the laugh

Youve not been here very long and not everybody accused everyone else of being a whacker. WE talked about pants and stuff and then like every other good thread, this when from one border to the next. You should have piped up before this if you didn't agree with or were not happy with the way it was going., If you want to know more about pants and such then post a question instead of complaining.

I would think that the program you are going to would be the ones responsible to get your titers and levels tested and if they are considered low then your program should be the one who foots the bill and gets you updated on your immunizations. In Missouri that's the way it is.

Stupid Human Tricks #1 http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/9796905/detail.html #2 http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/9792577/detail.html I choose number 1.

Anatomychick who was the emt? I'm from Missouri and I probably know him. Please advise

fair enough. was just curious as to another ems group. I hope it's a resounding success

I'll ask the question, why not use this group? You have a lot of paramedic students on here and also you have a lot of seasoned medics who can offer suggestions and a shoulder to cry on so to speak. It seems like it's redundant to make a new group. You could ask the mods or admin's to make a special forum for medic students or something like that.

nothings made up, the drugs just have different names in Australia than the states or canada

thanks for that clarification --- I thought that the saw could be used to get a hole in the window. It's been a long time since the extrication class I must have missed that part. I've not done extrication, I've always let the firefighters do it

Bushy it's all a matter of perspective. If you do the right thing even if it hurts to do it then call yourself credible.

none of us were on forced overtime. what we did was work on our off days. They guaranteed that we would have 12 hours of downtime unless a call came out and this county averaged about 12 calls for a 24 hour shift. WE had a dedicated transfer car. We had 4 units on each shift. So our call times were not that often. It made a really nice paycheck and it paid for a trip to Australia so I did it without hesitation. Had they have forced me to work that many hours I would have said no. They didn't force anyone to work it.

I'm not gonna touch that one Dust with a ten foot center punch.

Mad I'm not arguing the validity of your posts, not in the least. I agree, the former employees are the best candidates for the job hands down. I was involved in a situation where the mom and pop went under, the county they covered cancelled their license to run in the city. AMR came in, didn't hire any of their people, brought in all their own people with lots of overtime, heck I worked 4 24 hour shifts in a row(12 on 12 sleeping) and we covered it fine. But this service was so unliked in the community and their medics/emt's were so anti AMR that neither AMR nor the previous services employees wanted to have them work there. So the big guys AMR And the like can pull from their current resources if they need to until they conduct some sort of hiring process. I hope that made sense. You sound like someone to have on labor's side in negotiations. sounds liek you are a true pro labor guy. (I assume you are a guy but forgive me for that assumption if you are not).

Azcep, that is true also. We have to remember that test are used in the aid for diagnosis. They are a tool juust like the defibrillator and iv's are tools of our trades. We have to understand the overall picture and presentation of the patient before we can make any sort of diagnosis of a patient. And the fact that we cannot diagnose is critical here too. All we can do is gather the facts, try to fix the most urgent lifethreatening problems and get them to definitive treatment. That is what we do. To diagnose based on lab tests can be a dangerous slippery slope.