Eydawn

Uh.... who outside of *us* really knows what a "medic" is versus an EMT? Sorry... I don't think it's trying to mislead the public at all. You want to know my official title for the last two years within the Boy Scouts of America? CAMP MEDIC. Didn't have a single person assume that I was a paramedic... and those who questioned were usually an EMT or paramedic... and I didn't see any of them having a conniption fit over the fact that my call sign was Medic 4. I personally don't like just using the designation "medic" to refer to paramedics... in my mind, a "medic" is someone who provides medical care (hence the military/BSA useage), and a paramedic is a more educated pre-hospital medical provider. Am I some impostor trying to pull the wool over the eyes of unsuspecting troop leaders and parents? :roll: Since both the Parks Service and the Boy Scouts of America aren't really EMS agencies, why are we getting our underwear in a bundle over what they choose to call their medical staff? I would have figured that working with any wilderness type, the word "medic" would engender questioning the individual as to their highest level of certification... and going from there. But maybe that's just me. I don't think the Parks service is out there to perpetuate our floundering as a profession... I think they probably didn't even think about that at all. I think we need to find more productive things to criticize and vent our energy towards. Wendy CO EMT-B

The point is moot. Since we need to revamp EMS education entirely, the old "EMT-B" will suffice for those wishing to pursue the Fire end of things. The medical providers will have more in depth education and their levels will be a tad different... make sense? Since we're opening cans of worms, I thought I'd add my Zesty Flavor to the mix. Wendy CO EMT-B

What's the link between armadillos and leprosy?! Never heard that one before!! Yes... leprosy does still exist, fortunately it doesn't carry nearly as much of the stigma that it used to... Wendy CO EMT-B

Michael wrote There are those who would have us return to locally produced goods, made by small businesses. I don't completely agree with it; just demonstrating what the movie seemed to be projecting. I think mass production of goods has enabled a higher quality of life for some people... but the interplay of large business in the economic sphere might contradict that thinking, as it allows monopoly on price, to some degree... and there are some people who lose more profitable jobs due to large businesses moving in. More people might be employed, but with significantly lower pay... but economics is not my forte. Not at all. That comment was supposed to indicate decreasing diversity within the consumer's access range... as small businesses fail to compete with low prices, choice decreases, and then choice becomes set: you can get a Starbucks Latte... only name brand mass produced jeans... etc. NOW.... there will always be small stores supported by loyal clientele... but they become increasingly hard to find. And our society has become one of convenience... No... but escapism is very rarely a viable solution. Were the occupants of that ship to be headed for a new planet for colonization, I would feel differently... I think concerted effort in developing more technology to help clean up the mess would have been the more ethical solution within the framework of this movie. The citizenry of Earth should not have fled with hopes that the robots, unassisted, would clean up the mess; they should have been proactive in trying to adapt to the Earth and trying to find a solution for its cleanup. As it stands, the B n L company that contributed to the mess was the only force displayed in the movie attempting to fix things... and proved inadequate. Which is unsurprising, since to maintain the customer satisfaction expectations that they helped to create, they had to keep using techniques that were destroying the planet... As for the other points... were the movie producers to apply what they seem to be insisting, they would have no career. It is always profitable, however, merely to comment on what should be changed rather than attempting to change things. Hence why "think-tank" operations seem to thrive... Should companies not purvey goods? Of course not... should businesses not strive for success? No... and of course the general public will not be hostile towards affordable commodities. The real question is whether or not a price accurately reflects whether a commodity is affordable or not. The sticker price does not always reflect the total cost you are paying for an item... which many people do not pay attention to. But that is another discussion entirely. Answer your own questions, Michael, I'm interested to see what your reflections on them will be! Wendy CO EMT-B

Well, what the movie seems to be implying is that the Wal-Mart/McDonald's culture, of mass produced, readily available goods, is a negative form of consumerism. Wal-Mart is the poster child for American capitalism- along with Starbucks, everyone knows where one is and what they offer. So... the society on the ship shows people effectively LIVING inside Wal-Mart, having completely bought into the "easy solution" that allows them to relax in comfort on a 5 year vacation while the tiny Wall-E bots clean up their mess. Capitalist consumerism? I define it in the context of this movie as the giant corporations purveying product to mass citizenry, with the citizenry eagerly leaping at "low" prices. As for taking responsibility for what is going on around us, that varies depending on who you are... if you're a blue collar worker with very little education, taking responsibility means learning what your impact on the world is. If you're a more educated person who realizes the impact of your actions, taking action to minimize that impact would constitute taking responsibility... including voting for environmental policies and expending personal effort to minimize trash output, etc. There is no one answer... Wendy CO EMT-B

*Hugs Ruff* that really sucks. Go get something to eat before you crash yourself! I hope everything works out soon. Financial worries suck big time. --Wendy

Paris Hilton??? DEAR GOD... *WHY*? Here's a choice for you... Give up your most valued relationship and you will have perfect health for the rest of your life... Don't give up your most valued relationship, and both of you die of cancer. I know... it's an evil one. Wendy CO EMT-B

Ruff... you missed part of my post obviously.... Eydawn wrote: You just repeated what I said! They do say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... but I think you just needed more coffee! Wendy CO EMT-B

The movie Wall-E makes a definite political statement. Capitalist consumerism is going to result in high levels of obesity and poor environmental conditions unless we take responsibility for what is going on around us... there's no robot to dump the problem on, and doing so could even be dangerous. Notice how it had the humans regain control, in the end? They came back to work on the earth and try to fix the problem... but it took conditions getting so terrible before anyone paid attention... Also, pay close attention to how everyone is glued to a screen 24/7 instead of talking face to face with people around them, even though they're in the same SPACESHIP... there's another statement for you. I don't think it predicts the future, I think it provides good social commentary on what's going on right now. Wendy CO EMT-B

Yiddish is something that I don't really speak. Picked up a few words here and there from my father, who grew up in DC. But nothing useful, really... Wendy CO EMT-B

I think this might be clearer... Richard has a brother in law. This fellow has a brother, who had a first wife. She also had a brother. This fellow had a daughter, who is going to the Olympics on the Israeli Team. Right? Wendy CO EMT-B

Love trumps money.. but money can make love go so much smoother. Choose from the following: 1. You will never be able to drive a car, for any reason, ever again, and you cannot choose where to live- but you will be able to teleport yourself to any destination. 2. You can choose to live in any location you want, with any car you desire.

Ruff: Die with dignity. Terri: Have people follow me. Would you rather: 1. Be transported into the medieval ages, with all the mess therein, never to return 2. Be catapulted into the future to face the unknown

Hmm... in response to Jake... I don't particularly like number 1, so I'm going with #2. I could really use it in this damn anatomy class! Again, mine still stands... all the dessert you can eat, but no chocolate ever... or chocolate, and limited dessert?

Jump off the building and forget to fall. Given the choice: 1. You can eat as much dessert as you want and not suffer consequences- but you can never have chocolate again. 2. You can have chocolate, but the poundage consequence remains real and you have to be a normal person and limit dessert...

I would choose to be deaf. What would you do given the choice: 1. Attain all of the knowledge you could ever desire, but never be officially recognized for it 2. Attain a degree and be recognized by your peers and others, but only be mediocre in your chosen field

I've been taught it both ways. My initial training was to pump it up to the 180-200 range and slowly deflate, listening until the needle hit zero. My refresher course instructor made me palpate the pulse, inflate until it disappeared, and then inflate 20mmHg above that point... then deflate and listen all the way to zero. I haven't seen it make a difference, tbh... I know if I was in a hurry, it'd be the old stand-by. So how do the electric ones used in the hospital setting work? Are they sensing that the pulse disappears and inflating past that? Or are they pre-set to inflate to a certain pressure? Wendy CO EMT-B

Oh man this stuff is complex... I always have trouble with understanding the divisions of the psyche. I recently covered it as related to mythology... but since I've been buried in anatomy for a bit, it'll take me a few days to refresh myself on what we learned there. Give me a couple days and I'll get back to this thread with a productive post! Or PM me. Wendy CO EMT-B

Here's a rather unique one... the summer that I met my fiance we were both working out at the summer camp. Turns out every time he saw a damn deer we got a weird/important/what the hell? medical call. And it held true for quite a long time! I swear it... Wendy CO EMT-B

Dwayne? How, with all of your experience with behavioral stuff and your knowledge as a parent of a child, could you infer from an INTERNET posting the adequacy of a parent? Non sequitir, my friend! Also... my brother has been a very intractable citizen for a good portion of his childhood, and is only now gaining maturity and an understanding of how to be a productive human being. Can you, inferring from what you know of me and my upbringing, blame my parents for the less desirable actions and attitudes that my brother had as a younger child? We grew up in the same damn household, with the same parents, the same neighborhood, the same economic situation and the same breakfast cereal. I don't buy it... and in case you're wondering, I was the sort of child who tried to figure out the logic of even the most illogical parenting decisions my parents were guilty of. My brother just acted out. Explain that one. There are children who are difficult to manage. Parents do need to assume responsibility for raising their children and attempting to navigate the treacherous, crazy waters of being a good parent, no argument from me. But saying that a parent is solely responsible for creating the environment that wholly shapes the child is fallacious to say the least... the CHILD also bears responsibility. You can't always change your child by changing yourself. You can't always change your child period, no matter what resources you avail yourself of. I think a parent who is smart enough to realize that what they're doing isn't working should be applauded for utilizing other resources... such as more experienced or just plain DIFFERENT family members. Families have a responsibility to each other, and I don't think you can infer that ANYONE is just "dumping their kid" on someone else. A lot of times, there is a great deal of discussion and suggestions from other family members where a problem kid is concerned, and it is usually a mutual decision for the child to live with other family for a time. Saying that the parents are wholly responsible for the type person their child becomes removes responsibility for the child's actions, and condemns the innocent parent of every screwed up rapist, murderer and thief out there. There are plenty of parents who already assume too much guilt, just as there are plenty who assume none where it is warranted. Don't add to the mess. I was offended by Kaisu's comment until the qualifier that it was an attempt to break the victim stance psyche was added. I read it as "you made your bed, now you sleep in it" rather than "you hold the power here... you can remake this bed without dwelling on the hurt he's done to you." Sometimes, things need to be spelled out to become clear. And who are we to judge someone who's been so hurt by a domestic partner? So they vent here that he's a shithead... doesn't mean we have to judge them or tell them how to live their life. Wendy CO EMT-B

Why would there be a red flag? A medical discharge is an honorable discharge. I'd list your military experience including whatever positions you served in there, and that you were honorably discharged on XX/XX/200X. If they inquire why, tell them it was a discharge based on a medical technicality, and that you'd be happy to provide a copy of your civilian doc's physical stating that you are fit for your job duties. Wendy CO EMT-B

The IAFF has opposed moves to increase education in several areas because it means it is more difficult to brute-force the firefighters through the program to get them their EMT-B or EMT-P. As a political group, they have a lot of sway in certain areas. They know that increasing education for EMT's means the firefighters who didn't want to be medics or basics in the first place are going to REALLY pitch a fit... they also know that forcing FF's to become medical providers ensures that they have job security in low fire-call areas. Poke around the forum a little bit and look at some old Fire vs. EMS threads. You'll see what I'm referring to. Again, since my audience isn't going to be the IAFF, this is a side issue... my audience is current EMT's and prospective EMT's who are against increasing educational standards for our profession... Wendy CO EMT-B

Yes, I see that. Maybe I can use that as an example of some in the field being ready to move forward and even CHILDREN being willing to do more education than some of the adults we've got. Thanks, Spenac! Wendy CO EMT-B

Oh just wait... as a side thing I found an article praising the VFD as an important pillar of societal structure. I'll see if I can get it in a form where I can make it available to you folks... or PM me if you want to see it, I'll send you a copy to read.. Wendy CO EMT-B

http://americanheart.mediaroom.com/index.p...43&item=377 Hm... my crew is ahead of the game then. We've been emphasizing compressions in the classes we teach to Boy Scouts for a while... I assumed it was because the standards had officially changed. Go figure! Wendy CO EMT-B