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Anyone seen these used in Ontario at all? Just wondering.

To all of you against them.... how do you just ignore all of these services who report such dramatic reductions in back injuries with them?

If they don't belong there then why are they there? :?

The pt in labour call in this video is an example of how NOT to handle the situation.

The first patient with the scalp laceration in the second video.... I don't want to arm-chair medic here but why are they transporting L&S? Also, the second patient in that video they were saying they would have had police force the guy to go to the hospital had he refused..... on what grounds. He was perfectly competent :shock: In fact, watching a bunch of these videos related to that second (VCU stuff) they seem to give off a slightly full of themselves tone. I don't know, maybe it is just me.

Did you guys end up running the code?

It can be considered an "emergency" medication if it is used in the context of preventing and/or treating febrile seizures.

I challenge you to give me ONE example where an EMT "saved" a Paramedic. Where them being an EMT allowed them to recognize something or to do something that a Paramedic could not have done or would not have recognized.

:shock: I'm surprised there was someone who didn't see my tongue planted firmly in my cheek!

I've only had one student so far but that was the way I did it too. To me there is no better way to learn.

Just to be clear: The only con you see with this is that they are wasting time changing into uniform when the call comes in?

Dust: I like what you're saying, but I don't think you're taking it far enough. Ever since becoming a medic I have always said that you should be able to watch all of Emergency and all of MASH and that qualifies you as a medic. Everything you need to know is on those two shows

pretty good video actually. I really like the one put out the Ontario Paramedic Association. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjiZCbEmPvo

So what you're suggesting is Ontario's system? Yes, I'm bad :twisted:

See my experience has been different in Canadian NHs. Certainly they haven't been outright rude to us or a new admission pt.

I know it has been a while Nifty but I was wondering how you find the Sprinters for emergency care? We use them for patient transfer vehicles and I don't think it would be big enough to hold all the equipment for a 911 response and do pt care.

How old is this patient? Is there any past medical history immediately available?

So we repatriated an American citizen from one of our hospitals to an American NH in souther Ohio the other day. I have to say, this place had pretty much all the stereotypes of the American nursing home! We got there and there was NO staff to be found anywhere. When we finally found a Nurse, all she had to say to us (in the most disrespectful tone possible) was "I'm not expecting anyone new, check the other areas." My partner said "Can you get a hold of the other areas for us so we know where to go?" Well, I tell you, the look on her face was like we had just told her we spent our spare time killing babies and feasting on their flesh! "You want me to do what?!" was her response. Fortunately, one of the food service ladies was there and offered to take us over. We finally found where our pt was supposed to be and nothing was ready in the room. She was supposed to have a specialty bed, our hospital had sent a list of ALL her needs and spoken on the phone with the head of the place. She needed one of those fancy air mattresses due to decubitus ulcers.... well the bed they had was one of the oldest hospital beds I've seen. Needless to say, I was not impressed with my first exposure to an American NH. Caveat: I am fully aware that this is not representative of all NHs. I just found it sad that I found one with all these stereotypes on my first try!

Hmmmmm..... sounds like that is a yes.

Fireguard, I just read two of your posts in a row and in both of them you used the 'f' word. I have to say that you aren't portraying yourself in a very professional way.

I hope you aren't suggesting that you perform a procedure on a patient when it is not necessary?

Well said Vent! You have managed to sway my position on this issue, I retract my previous statement except for my frustration over the idea that "They're doctors! They can do ANYTHING!!!!1111oneone"

so they are a doctor, so what? If they don't have the equipment they need what good are they? In other words, yes it can be justified (ignoring for now the argument as to if L&S is justified ever)

I got my RPN (2 year) before my PCP education. I can state with 100% certainty that there is no way an RPN would be able to simply do some ride outs and have the same level of competency as a fully trained PCP. I can't say the same for RNs, but from what I know I am fairly confident that the same applies.

Why don't the let you? A couple of times I have had a patient that I couldn't get a collar on and had to immobilize with a horseshoe blanket.