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actually, that was quite clear. Thanks for actually replying to my post!!!! I belive, when I went through medic school, we did this method. However, with slight variencies. Now that you descibed how you did it, it jogged my memory of how we did it back then. Would would start at the right shoulder, go over it, and down to the navel, back over the left shoulder and across. The hip section would actually feed through the loop of the chest section, so when you tighten everything, they pull in opposition, further securing the patient to the board. The foot section would also feed through the hip section, so when tightened, it would pull everything down. The foot section would also go around the feet, so keeping the body in a compact position. Obviously, not pulling hard enough to compress the spine. In re: to Dustdevil, this method (once you figure it out) so WAY faster than spider straps. No contention. Now faster than sloppy seat belt straps??? Probably not. But that style, in my opionon, isn't secure at all. You should give it a try. all you need is a few cam style straps. im regards to how they secure. . . it just depends on the style that you use. You can use the metal buckles that have the teeth and grind into the webbing. or the type that I have, which is a cam style. You feed though the buckle and back through onto itself and pull tight. Which ever way they don't slip. Cheers!

Roman straps. . . right on. thats a new one. Ya, thats been a repeat question throughout. But, as I have done many a time on the ski hill. . . a good 'ol cravat or a hand tie to the top of the straps may solve that problem. guess we'll have to see how that goes when we get there. Thanks for the help.

Thanks Jmac and Xselerate for posting. I think the picture may be fooling you. "all those straps" are really only 2 14' long straps that criss-cross. Jmac, I do know what you are talking about, lots of folks use those out here. We have shy'd away because I don't think they are the most secure thing on the market. But they do work and are very very fast. This style im talking about was actually devoloped by the military (as were most of our great paramagic tools). You get the pt. on the board, layout your two straps, thread them through various holes in the board, and then tighten the whole package together. Non-the-less, its good to hear what other people are doing out there. thanks again! Bryan

thanks for all the quick replys. No. . . not just plane webbing. look at this link. this is actually what I am demoing right now. http://www.wildmed.com/Merchant2/merchant....ategory_Code=RG

Don't know about where you are at, but here in Cali, it is recognized. Id say more than not, most depts. here are using this method, and it is a hell of a lot more secure that spider straps. Maybe I should clarify where Ill be using these. I am the assistant ski patrol director at one of the resorts here in Lake Tahoe. We have been using spider straps since I have been there (8 years now). Spider straps are great and fast. however. when the velcro gets wet and or cold, they are pretty much worthless to us. So going this style will end that problem. also, when using these in medic school years ago, we could very easily perform a full c-spine in around 1 min. with 3 people. very quick. and the response from people, and personal critique, was that the pt. was very much more secure with these system, than with spider straps.

A long time ago, I learned a great technique which utilized 2 14' long straps for spinal immobilization. I am looking at getting away from the ever so popular Spider Straps, and going to this method. The way the companies are teaching how to use their straps though, is different from what I learned. So I am wondering if people out there can specifically share how they use this system and the different attachment points and how they cross over the body. Any info greatly appreciated!!!