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Wow, now I normally know why I don't read junk in the "funny stuff" section. Apparently too many people have no problem giving it and have no trouble having a hissy fit when people sling back. The estrogen level in this thread is dangerously high.

^ Well, it's better than a Throckmortons' sign.

Yea.. :oops:

Now if there was only a way to test for the Throckmorton's Sign prehospitally.

Lymphocytes reproducing in the lymph nodes in the neck that drain the interstitial fluid from the mouth could be an extreme possibility.

^ You mean I shouldn't be bagging the patient that's breathing at 24 breaths/minute just because they're tachypneic? :?: :oops: 8) 8-[

It's infered by using quoted phrases like "might" and "happy." This indicates that the people who might be happy in the private sector are just there because they can't go elsewhere. Furthermore, there was no such qualifier infront of your assertion requiring people who think that EMS based fire suppression is bunk.

Heh, it isn't fun if everyone agrees. I'm thowing the powerpoint together anyways as the course progresses, so I might as well throw them up here.

It would kinda of help if we had some sort of inkling (maybe even a link) of what the inital post in that thread was about.

Yep, I failed at getting into the fire department and THATS what I'm in grad school. :roll: :roll: Oh, and 24 hour shifts are the bomb-diggity, which is why the people who whined the most at my old company about call volumn were the people on the 24's. :roll: :roll: Oh, and there's only 2 choices for EMS around, fire and private, right? If EMS based fire suppression was so great at providing patient care, why is Southern California (Orange and LA counties to be specific) so "mother may I" with their paramedics and why can't medics in Orange County (where there are no private ambulance paramedics) even give asprin? Oh, and your post is full of failure with the straw man argument (all private EMTs that complain are just ones that can't get into the fire department).

A lot of hospitals hire EMT-Bs as a "trauma tech" or "ER tech." Examples University of California, Irvine Trauma Tech Memorial Care System, ~5 openings between different hospitals. Search in the Professional/Technical/Certificate section The thing also to remember is that these spots normally pay about $5 more an hour than ambulance jobs.

At least for the hospitals I've seen, the emergency department techs aren't really responsible for patient care persay. In most cases they're there to assist the licensed patient care team (physician, nurse, RT, etc) by providing an extra hand, house keeping (restocking, turning over beds, etc), simple jobs (running 12 leads that the doctor will read, hooking patients up to monitors, CPR, etc), and patient transport (with licensed staff (RN, RT, etc as needed to monitor the patient). In general, they aren't treating the patient based off of their own assessments akin to basics working in the field and are not a replacement for nurses.

Bumping the thread again to announce that the upper limb section is now done and uploaded. http://www.emtcity.com/phpBB2/dload.php?ac...amp;file_id=125

Do I help out when I'm off duty? Sure, I've got a cell phone and I generally know the number to 911. The only time I can think of when I would actually stop is if I was in an area far from any sort of emergency response (if you drive cross country some time, you'll find some areas that are pretty remote, but not off the beaten trail).

Hey, look, it's not the police's job to control your little crotch fruit in your own home. Maybe next time she won't suck at that entire parenting thing.

According to the article, the dude is neither certified in New Jersey, New York, or through the National Registry. That said, I was looking through them and there are a few real gems in there. There's one about a company using stolen ambulances to run an unlicensed service. Then there's the gem about the patient that was so overly restrained that it would be comical if it wasn't true.

Just because the medics don't transport doesn't mean that the basics aren't more than glorified gurney van operators. The only time they aren't is if they work in a system that doesn't have medics as a first response option. Those areas generally kinda of suck at EMS anyways because of either local politics and/or locals who won't pull their head out of their ass long enough to fund a proper EMS system.

2+2=5 should be an acceptable answer though.

Ok, ignoring the fact that the person lied about being an EMT from New York and putting on my devils advocate hat, what if the person is a certified EMT-B from a non-registry/registry optional state?

The problem, though, is not just limited to 911 calls, but any use of an ambulance. I say this for two reasons. First off, the public will equate any ambulance with medical care regardless of who owns it and the type of calls they run. Second, there are plenty of nursing home->emergency department transports run by interfacility companies that should involve a paramedic first response. Since we can't seem to convince nursing homes to pick up the phone and dial 911 for paramedics, this is the only conceivable way of making that happen. The problem is that the analogy between EMS levels and healthcare/medical professionals is still valid. Requiring people to work as a basic prior to medic school is akin to putting a bandaid on an arterial bleed. Instead of requiring time as a basic, the focus should be placed on ensuring that medic programs provide quality education and clinical time. This won't change, though, until EMT-B's are eliminated as a prehospital provider.

I do believe that you will find that a large portion of the posters on this board are against vollies because: 1. They fight against increasing the fields educational standards in the name of numbers. 2. They give away their services for free (you don't see people working on trash trucks for free, do you? Those services cost money too) which results in: 2.A Cities keeping from upgrading to paramedic level care because of "money." (yet they still seem to be able to offer all of those other civic services) 2.B. downward pressure on paid provider wages.

If the study has been published, let me know and I'll see if I can get the entire study.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I think someone needs to take a serious look at their own writing style before throwing that stone.

Don't think too hard. There's a company called Medixs in Southern California that only offers BLS services (partly due to local politics).