Timmy

Well lets all come to the conclusion that people under 18 or 21 or whatever shouldn’t be allowed to ride EMS. My advice is to get over this post and move on with our lives.

Well I didn’t mean to be disrespectful to the people serving in Iraqi, there doing a great job. What I meant by "awesome experience" is it would be a once in a life time experience to be part of something that large, to treat patients with injury’s you would never see in civilian life. I know most people serving over there have an extremely tough time and see some things that perhaps no one should see in there life time. That’s why I would love to do something like that. Fair enough, I’m not old enough to be in a war zone and I realize that. I can’t imagine what it would be like to work over there, that’s why I’d want to do something like that. I’m an extremely ambitious and adventures person. Maybe when I become old enough and have the appropriate training, I might go over there. You never know.

Oh and don’t worry, I still have a perfectly good teenage life. I go to party’s, I hang around my friends, I play football, I race motocross, I have a girlfriend, and I play computer games. There is career counselling and I have talked to them. I also have a job, I’m a professional sports trainer and I get payed $35 an hour to sit there and watch old guys run around after a ball. Neither my insurance company nor my club have any problems with a 16 year old doing first aid for them. The only reason I do it is because adults are to lazy to do it and they can’t play without some form of first aid presents. The fact of the matter is I love helping people, I love helping the community, I love learning new skills and undertaking training. I wouldn’t have it any other way. I know everyone else has way more experience and training than what I have but I’m working on it. I understand that you guys are paramedics and I hope to be one myself or maybe even a doctor one day. I am very professional for what I’m trained in. I treat every patient to the best of my ability and I’ve never had any complaints. I personally think that the cadet program I’m in is a wonderful idea and I encaged anyone interested in first aid to join. BTW, I never let things drop when I’m worked up!

And another thing that gets me about this post, paramedics saying they don’t agree with kids on ride alongs, but yet they did ride alongs when they were 16?

I was being serious! I would love to undertake the appropriate training and get experience in situations like Iraqi.

I was being serious! I would love to undertake the appropriate training and get experience in situations like Iraqi. Why is it everyone take me as a joke??

That’s horrible. Decaps would defiantly be the worst.

No not at all. I think it’s a good question. Well not that I have much experience in EMS but I have treated a few "gross" injury’s. At a B&S Ball which is a massive sort of piss up party, we had a lady jump into the bon fire. That was a bit ewww, her whole body was burnt. Had a young girl with a fractured C4. The vertebra was bulging out the side of her neck. Not so much a gruesome injury but shocking to see. Compound fractures with arterial involvement are always fun. Being thrown up on is alway a down side. Had a bloke fall off his dirt bike, right neck of femur fracture, leg had been completely rotated. Sort of like a cork-screw fracture. Rodeo riders that have had there figures ripped off from being stuck in the saddle handle thing. Oh and patients with really, really bad pressure wounds or extremely bad infections! Sorry I don’t have more gross things.

You have no idea how much I’d love to do something like that!! Seriously what an awesome experience. But you have to be 17 to join the army

GhostMedic28 I’m with yah mate!! Guys it’s 2006 anything’s possible!

The service I volunteer for has a fitness test once a year that you must complete in order to be efficient. Its not so much as a really stressful test were you have to be super fit but enough to show your capable of for filling you dutys: Standard Assessment: -To preform 10 minutes of effective 1 person Adult CPR (this is quiet difficult for the older member) After this were normally assessed on defib and advanced resuc so all up your working on the dummy for about 45mins. -To carry emergency apparatus, weighing over 20kg, a responsible distance to a casualty and administer first aid in a timely manner, in a variety of different environments, -To move a casualty successfully to a stretcher. -To lift a casualty as part of a team, manoeuvre and load the patient with or without assistance onto the stretcher and into the ambulance. Bike Patrol Assessment: -As above, as well as: -Be physical fit, free of any health restrictions or medical conditions. -Undertake a 60km bike ride in a responsible time. -1.5km run within 10mins. -Endurance ride. -Lifting a move your bike and appropriate equipment over an obstacle course to a patient. I also suggest not eating when you get bored!

Please leave us alone.... Please!

Few more questions lol Is the scaring on the chest? Is there a lump or deformity on the chest? My assessment so far: -Pt has minor cardiac history. -Pt taking Tylenol 3= analgesic for minor pain associated with headaches, operations ect. -Pt has scaring, if on chest suggesting there is a pacemaker. -Pt has Sinus Tach = elevated rate of impulses , associated with sinoatrial node which suggests pacemaker involvement. I’m going out on a limb here but scaring, operations, cardiac hx. I think it would mean there’s a problem with the pacemaker. I’m hoping lol… I’m probly no were near was’s going on but I thought I’d give it a shot.

Not again :roll: ..... Why cant we just stick to the topic?? Were only sharing ideas on what cadets are like in a different country.

Sorry I can’t help you much with this mate. Your cause is very worthwhile!! I suggest getting in contact with the Red Cross, UN or some form of aid agency that isn’t already helping to see if you could get some donations? Maybe ask some local community services eg. Lions Club to see if they would give you a donation. GOOD LUCK!!!

God i dunno lol... Got no idea what the crunch would be when you rub the sternum. Pushing to hard lol, maybe a hemothorax?? bit out there tho... She in reps distress, maybe asthma but her SPO02 ok? She’s not chocking if the airways is clear. If shes on Tylenol she’s in some sort of pain. Has she had a reaction to the med? Does she have a pace maker? Other than that I'm stumped! Is Tylenol an anticoagulant?

I’m a cadet leader in St John Ambulance. Its for kids ages 11 to 18 who want to learn first aid and have fun. Our programs involve: -Learning first aid -They do courses in oxygen, defib, asthma, airway management, spinal management but you must be 16 to do this. -We do weekly training with the last night of every month a social/fun night. Most of the time we just play around with the stretchers or 02. -All courses they complete successfully, they get issued with certificates which they can put on there resume or CV. -Once they complete there courses and are confident first aiders they can go out and assist the adults with event coverage putting everything they’ve learnt into action. -We do a lot of scenario work sometimes we get together with the paramedics and other emergency services and will do an MVA situation or bush rescue, something along those lines. Not only do the cadets run the whole exercise but they get to cut up the cars with the jaws of life or squirt the car with the fire truck just to get a different fell for the different services. -We have a great youth leadership program which is a 3 day course which involves leadership techniques, drill, disciple, teaching others, team work, personal development as well as a variety of other things. Once they’ve completed this they get a promotion to either Corporal or Sergeant and take a leadership roll with the other cadets. To keep there accreditation they must complete a certain amount of projects during the year this might include organizing fundraisers, organizing social outings, administrative rolls, presentations on first aid ect… -We go camping, bike riding, white water rafting, horse riding and other social outings. -Some of them even volunteer in old peoples homes and in hospitals. -Sort of like the scouts they can do badges. This might include: Radio Communication Counter Disaster Fire Fighting International Friendship Cooking Map Reading Boating/Camping Child care Handicrafts Stuff like this. They must meet a certain criteria and it’s assessed by a professional person in that particular field. -They also get to do awards like the Duke Of Edinburgh, Grand Priors Award they also work towards the amount of hours they complete on event coverage or community service and are awarded with badges for the amount of work they put in. We all have great fun, there a really great bunch of kids who get along really well.

hhmmm tricky... Maybe something to do with illegal drugs or medications? lyk an OD? If she was in the kitchen, did she hit her head? Slip on a wet surface? Something along those lines? What’s her history? Meds? Allergies? ect... I know the diagnosis will be really easy lol

Becksdad: Thanks for that mate you made it really easy to understand! It’s hard when your only learning and you have different people saying different things.

First is there breathing or a pule? Did the pt have a history eg. Diabetes/seizures ect? Did the son hit her over the head or something? Is she suffering from extreme hypothermia? Did she crash the car? Suicide attempt from C02 poisoning? *The son should learn first aid lol.

They also said “The assessment of Blood Pressure has little impact on patient treatment” The first thing paramedics do as soon as they treat a patient is take a BP. I’ve also had paramedics say “its important to keep monitoring the patients BP” I’m Confused, who do I believe?? :?

I was told this by 2 try hard’s who call them selves paramedics. Just wondering if it was true? What peoples thoughts were?

" It is important to recognise that Blood Pressures are only one sign assessed in a complete patient assessment and therefore, used in isolation provides little indication of the patient’s condition or time critically. A complete and thorough assessment, including a full set of vital signs survey should be completed on all patients where a Casualty Report Form is completed. Blood Pressure assessment is one part of an overall perfusion status and should be considered in the context of the patient’s presentation and other observation and information, including history. "

primemedic01: Taster and pocket knife are you serious!! OHHH NO... Dosh... Wouldn’t that be Illegal? * This forum really needs one of those little animation thingos of Homer Simpson running into a brick wall and shouting “doh” *

GhostMedic28 post reminded me of a patient we had a few years back. Event coverage at a Harley division ‘party’ (need I say more!) Coverage started at 10pm till 10am. Luckily I wasn’t the unfortunate person who had to deal with this. I heard moaning in the back of the ambulance so I opened the door to see if I could help, I found. .Male 36 years old, typical biker, presented to first aid post with a 600ml coke bottle stuck in the patient’s backside. He had no idea how it got there or were he was (that’s drugs for yah) We tried to remove it gently with no luck. Paramedic arrived, pumped the patient with muscle relaxant. Still no luck. Patient was airlifted to Trauma Centre for surgery. This is why I have never returned to this event.