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So this is the only info I have on this situation. Was George Orwell "1984" most correct when he stated in his novel the decries of a totalitarian government is bent on total manipulation ? So what next, does one get sacked for chatting on the phone between calls and can your employer record them when your working ? Isn't this an infringement on the EMTs rights to free speech and is this not what Freedom in America stands for or better against ? Whats the huge deal if one posts a picture is that some boss man believes is unprofessional or was it just developing comradeship ? Thoughts ?

Try explaining that to Employment Standards in Alberta .... and good luck with that.

I stand corrected ... so seeing as there is no PA regulatory body I guess I could use that title eh what, I wonder how in northern clinics a non regulated professional can work and provide care ????? The 'P' 'P' abbreviation thing just does't sound professional .

Is that the old # 9 ? 250 bucks .... whew ... how about 150 ? cheers

http://www.prrecordgazette.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2495653&#postbox Check out the link Shane, looks like the pilots too are supporting this move. And of course the operator whining like a child caught with his hand in the cookie jar. What is really interesting is that and I quote from the news paper : Its no wonder that folks that worked before in this operation left for either health reasons or were forced out because there was no union to protect their jobs in the past to stand up to a such dogmatic owner. I have a close friend who worked out of Peace River (ok more like 4) One sent a letter of concern to the medical director (who is an examiner for Pilots for MOT) for practicing way beyond reasonable safe limits and asked that s/he not be placed in the situation again. Services were "no longer required" when the medical director passed the letter along to the Owner ... odd timing eh ? cheers

http://www.skedco.com/ its 24 lbs and as Dust knows NATO # and in IRAQ too. http://www.kaltire.com/retail/services/chains.php They are like a hundred bucks ... I have 2 pair just for fun in the snow on my 4x4. Whoo Hoo I can only glean a bit of tangible intel on this one but 20 inches is not a huge deal that said if the SERVICE is prepared ... just saying maybe the boy scouts have an idea ... Like be prepared ? cheers I bet $100.00 cnd that 4c6 was a eagle scout !

How much weight or punishment will that item come to, if the accused is found guilty ? Is that the same as embezzlement ?

Before you run away ... perhaps contact Heath Canada and Employment Canada as THEY are not calling a horse a horse, nor is the BC government define the same as Health Canada or WHO. (I personally like the WHO definition far better more inclusive really. But these are not protected titles under BC legislation anyone can call themselves a "PARAMEDIC" in fact your avatar suggests you are an RN/Paramedic ? Sure with additional education why not ? Bringing this full circle that of Practioners in Rural Communities Teaching and education on all that "down time" and "muddling about" oh your regreating that freudian slip I suspect ... Assuming that only a few entities like NP or PA are the only ones capable of multi tasking could make you look a bit foolish as there are more than just a few multi hat wearing persons out there. Lets not forget that REMT-P do work in clinics, all by themselves in the industry world, GOM and middle east to just touch a few regions, they can and presently do this type of care ok not the nursing home scenario but very similar in practice. So is this not a better way of skinning a cat ? Heck GP MDs don't in many cases do this extensive a work up as you do are suggesting as but I just might. btw the PA does not have a regulatory body in Canada quite yet, although I hear Tom A. is working on it. I sure hope Happi does not see that comment because this is one of her strengths in an isolated community, I bet my bottom dollar certainly has great influence as to when that individual needs either home support or transport, my bet is that she doest just go back home after the report is given either. cheers

Not ME MATE just a scenario I heard about ... sorry and apology for high jacking the topic. my bad In this case: You know how it will go: *- The EMT in this case will get fried and rightly so as he knew the rules, but a slap on the wrist is all that will occur by the regulatory body. *- Some past patient will hear about it in the news then bitch or find a Lawyer to in some way get some cash out of this, starting an IV could be considered "assault" did this EMT unlicensed work a CODE that succumbed ? *-The Department will find a loophole or divert responsibility elsewhere or just terminate the manager that hired. *-The whistle blower too will be mopping floors in the hall at least, or in Rotten Ronnie's this depending where s/he fits in the FF feeding chain and if they have a Lawyer in the wings. *-The Fire Dept will walk away without any egg on the face. This will not be the last time we hear of this crap.

How about an employer that makes up their own cards using the term BLS or ALS provider for industrial practice ... and a fine so useless as to be a laughing stock. Hey may be the media is the effective way to go or the Prime contractor ... cheers

Good point: Then I am forced to ask in BC why is the title "Primary Care Paramedic" used ? cheers

Yea who needs those clowns ... Bwhaa haa ha that's a knee slapper. cheers

Funny thing I just HotSync (ed) my Treo and found for some reason the Calender, Memos and Tasks did NOT go to the regular desktop Palm folders but to (OUTLOOK) which I do not use routinely .... ARGH .... makes me wonder why I stopped using a day planner, oh yea someone laughed at me calling it a man purse ... I am sensitive that way. So when you figure out how to change the default value to the original software Palm Hotsync. I am all ears because I wasted good part of an afternoon reading 'HELP' files ... and that is an oxymoron beyond belief. Annie just wondering have you tried EXPORT from Outlook to Crack berry files ?

Columnist's attacks on paramedics irksome

I have never said that period. Under the remote situation you operate in it is a big fat fail of BCAS not to have at least a full time ACP, minimum and not to forget a possibility of a CCP rotating into the Health Care center too, so have Comrade Campbell put his money where his yap is and try something new. Happi you said it yourself about those guys you love (as in your story) why should the good people of Haida Gwaii NOT have that level of care as the other communities in BC... hey don't you pay PST like the rest of the province ? I bet those guys would be happy to do teaching when they are on island. Other places base flight services in the outlying areas THEN bring patients into major centers, BCAS Air Ambulance system the opposite way, trying to get into a tight spot in a bad weather situation. Lots of ways to skin a cat.

Quite interesting that MOT regulations state that due to safety Pilots and Flight Attendants subjected to the stressors of flight and are limited to a 14 hour duty day ... all I will say on this topic its about DAMN time Flight Medics health and the safety of those that fall under their care are in placed in jeopardy. GO get em HSAA its way and in passing both the regulatory body and Employment standards Alberta and Federally are aware of this situation since 2004 (practice beyond safety for rest periods) ... Where was the regulatory body in this protecting the public safety with this very serious situation once again ? Alberta Labour get your head out of your sphincter do whats SAFE for Albertans that are sick or injured.

Thanks for the offer of job contracts yes can you post the huge numbers of available jobs on the website ... presently available in Alberta ... and forget the oilpatch resume hunting EMS stuff because it is breakup and projects are completed for winter ... go fish. Ok just who signed AIT again ? and when ? and what barriers are we semantically referring to again ? and how and why is immigration (out of country) tied to this ? Economic growth, interesting so can you inform the group as to just what is the current unemployment rate in EMS (not the EI numbers) I personally know of 9 EMTs that are out of work with no prospects on the horizon, as for quality workers look to my paragraph on out of country Paramedics. So live in a community and don't support that community then use its infrastructure at no cost, sorry to inform you this is not a free country. I pay a LOT of Taxes don't YOU and I have zero input in where those tax dollars go. So now instead of supporting my children, the schools (accept for special grant schools that just may be capitalizing on this free Federal grant money) so forget funding for post secondary schooling and forget that the Universities are steadily squeezing the lifeblood out of current young Canadians "ahem" that were born here, this CORP agreement in part supports those that did not support or build this country in the first place. My suggestion is to separate the moneys based on the 3 goals, and not tie it all together in a ball of sting (note that strings ARE attached) I do support an National Exam Bank but for who accomplishes this .. hey lets be far under fair competition laws and "TENDER" an "RFP" ... hey that sounds fair because in the long run this "EXAM BANK" and "PROCESS" could become a marketable commodity. As for the letter I will be holding it my hand for now, passed on to others of more influence than myself. Question: Does one not have to prove a need before one releases 1.2 million ? Well the interesting thing is government to a certain degree can be held accountable, with an provincial election coming and healthcare in the media every day ...just saying. Subtle ? Try going the other way Canada to US ... LOL this a loop hole that should be closed immediately to protect high standards that in the PAST Alberta was noted for. There is a huge difference in quality of education and scope of practice south of the border and just look to the Colossal amount of information on that wee topic on EMT city ... your kidding me right? I stand against government intervention in my chosen profession and unlike yourself I believe empowering and unifying in one collective voice is the correct path to follow. A regulatory body is established to evaluate a very basic standard of care not excellence or an advocacy for the profession let alone improve in scope of practice or forward thinking, look to track record again. Now the sad truth is that the paper card in hand from a regulatory body is an entry point ONLY, in the patch when it is booming its all you need ... now try applying to EDM or Calgary and see where that gets you. Ok the patch ... now we are discussing an OH+S legislated entity (dictated to industry by government)and then to be provided service by a private for profit company, hey some operators are in it for the long haul but vast majority just have $$ in their eyes and best look to the OH+S "requirements" for medical equipment and some industrial oil patch operations actually retain staff for a whole year point is this is not a secure year round job in any way BUT the day rate makes everyone rub there hands with glee to find out it is not a reliable or anywhere near secure career for many reasons... Besides the regulatory body has a complete blind eye to industrial EMS when we should have wilderness or remote practice endorsement similar to ENFORM IRP 16 .. do you think that will ever happen ... meh. Sheesh do you want to debate public vs private health care in Canada ... meh. How they get taxed and where that money goes is a question of tax law, not professional practice. Well at least a regulatory body gets a few bucks .... or is that area a bone of contention this very minute ? Your point I am missing .. Please explain, try Google for definition of Professionalism. . I can start a paragraph any way I wish too ... the semantics you are perpetuating and the government definition of "terms" can you explain just what an "artificial" barrier is vs a Standard of expected care and Education? If you believe for one microdrop that this forced agreement is being discussed by PARAMEDICs in the first place your delusional, again check on the website and look to what level's are looking forward for the profession and the past transparency and fiscal responsibility ... check Facebook out and look to a respected member of this board and just why HE is running ... James Hersey I am not the ONLY one sees the true colours. Better yet don't forget the political math in this as the ratio is 1:3 for the highest level of training/education. Then do the democratic MATH ... so just what levels collectively have the most clout in a vote ... DUH your not making your point re: non-paramedic based association THEN throw in 2 "public appointed" LOL "overseers" with a vote. It becomes quite apparent political science was not your major ! Umm ok maybe the strings attached ..it is a grant from Immigration Canada and Economic development to fund a goal established and agreed upon over 10 years ago ... Want a positive idea STIPEND http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipend on that concept alone in AB I would have enough votes from just the current students in Alberta Medic programs ... better sleep, better marks, more focus and not a full time job burning 2 ends of the candle to feed themselves or their dependants... and a little thing called RETENTION of trained providers as this goes a long way. I guess you missed the news lately, rebuilding Afghanistan, Haiti, medical support in Chili, supporting to the deep dark continent ... um remove head from dark places please. The question is we HAVE to set a limit and with the current Harper Government (in recession) the pockets will eventually run out of "spare pocket change" We have many social issues in Canada but fail to support within out own borders, again for clarity Charity begins at Home Oddly enough I can live and now practice anywhere with my registration ... So if you enjoy a boom and bust economy where public service sectors (ps public EMS is in AB) are the first heads on the chopping block or you could be a opportunistic capitalist or a businessman, perhaps debating the "employer stakeholders position to get cheaper labour only ? I believe in sustainable controlled growth and immigration based on proven needs assessment on this topic we are diametrically and philosophically opposed. You have missed that point in its entirety, fortunately the AB Labour Minister did not and he advanced my concerns up the food chain, ps when I go fishing I throw the little ones back, I like playing the BIG FISH. You should pay more attention to Canadian current affairs (try CBC news) and cut the sarcasm because your just embaressing yourself and it appears you don't need me to help you. ! Stability is in this Profession's best interest, timely, well researched data and deliberate actions NOT A GRANT MONEY GRAB and the topic of this thread in Alberta takes a step forward ... well its looking like a very slippery slope right now with Gene Z. trying to running for his political life and for higher ground ... good luck Gene a Wild Rose is right beside you and may be pushing your buttons right quick. (stay tuned) If one regulatory body has allowed a glut of "labourers" and flood the Profession with IMHO substandard (I an entitled to my opinion) Well we are our own forefathers in our destiny and we best wake up and associate for common goals to maintain and dare I say INCREASE the Pre-hospital Standards not these "artificial barriers to business" good grieve J.H. can't you see the difference ? Note my words well and in closing: If one "supposed untouchable" group threatens job security they just may find that the principles of democracy will defeat them. Is it a far stretch of the imagination to believe they too will be found pounding the pavement themselves and with a "restricted" practice permit. don't count the Unions out of this JUST yet. cheers ps I do enjoy your screen name as I do like to eat Chocolate.

Ahem ... don't you mean snow shoes ? its this frozzen white stuff that .... oh never mind

Could the insanity "root cause" be a response to the supposed transparency that is professed, or the hypocrisy of some to inform "after the fact" as opposed to be updated in a timely fashion with realistic information ... eh? I think that part my insanity stems from the apathetic nature of lets wait and see EMS crowd and then bitch about things they could have had positive input, being proactive and being actively involved in the process's. Isn't it sad state of affairs that some that take a literary challenge asking questions is a negative thing ? a pity. The most serious lack of unity or group association with good leadership could be part and parcel. ps so please pass the moose stew over here, my igloo is melting and hunting season isn't until fall.

You talking about my EX WIFE ?