ERDoc Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 OK, points well taken. Continue you equine flogging.
Just Plain Ruff Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 That horse called and asked us to stop beating the tar out of it.
nremtp Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 t depends on their competencies doesn't it ... the point that seems to be being missed repeatedly is ... that a registered practitioner of what ever profession's duty of care is notdischarged by the simple presence of another provider AND, IF the other provider is not registered, the registered practitioner may well beheld accountable until thepatient is delivered into the care of another registered practitioner That is the funniest quote I have ever read! In a roundabout way, zippy is trying to say that a speech therapist, arts therapist, chiropodist, dietician, clinical scientist, occupational therapist, prosthetist and radiographer are more qualified and appropriate to deal with a medical emergency on account of them being "registered". So beware all NHS Ambulance Technicians because you will have to give way at the scene of any emergency to any of the above healthcare staff because their first aid certificate is far more appropriate than your emergency medical training and experience. You are so full of shit zippy and that post proved it. You have no credibility whatsoever and on the basis of that one post alone you have proven what an idiot you really are. Do you honestly believe that any Court in any land will ever agree that a speech therapist or dietician is more qualified to deal with an emergency than a Technician/EMT? Do you really think that "registration" automatically means someone is more appropriately equipped to deal with a medical/trauma emergency? You are pathetic! You are the worst type of healthcare professional because you do not understand, respect or recognise either your own limitations or the limitations/scope of practice of other healthcare workers.
zippyRN Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 <snip> That is the funniest quote I have ever read! you might think it;s funny, but it is true and accurate. In a roundabout way, zippy is trying to say that a speech therapist, arts therapist, chiropodist, dietician, clinical scientist, occupational therapist, prosthetist and radiographer are more qualified and appropriate to deal with a medical emergency on account of them being "registered". Have i said that - no i haven't ... i have pointed out that 1.professional regulators expect registered Professionals to provide emergency care in line with their skills and competencies ... 2. the presence of another provider does not discharge that duty of care unless the skills and competencies of the other provider are much more, even then it still doesn't ... or perhaps the Nurses and HPC registrants who take the flack for the failures of Higher specialist trainee Doctors (Specialist Registrars - for out left pondian colleagues - the very senior residents or the post board certification fellows) ... 3. there's a great deal of difference between what is expected to be the actions of the 'ordinary man professing to hold the special skill (of being what ever profession)' where that 'special skill' is being a radiogrpaher or clinicla scientist ... and when that specialist skill is being a Nurse, ODP or Paramedic who works in emergency care and has demonstrable skills knowledge and experience in emergency care. So beware all NHS Ambulance Technicians because you will have to give way at the scene of any emergency to any of the above healthcare staff because their first aid certificate is far more appropriate than your emergency medical training and experience. I have not stated this , it is an illogical and without basis conclusion you have drawn by extrapolation so you don't have ot admit that you are wrong and well off the mark, because it damages your precious paramuppet ego. You are so full of shit zippy and that post proved it. You have no credibility whatsoever and on the basis of that one post alone you have proven what an idiot you really are. You are so full of shit nremtp and that post proved it. You have no credibility whatsoever and on the basis of that one post alone you have proven what an idiot you really are Do you honestly believe that any Court in any land will ever agree that a speech therapist or dietician is more qualified to deal with an emergency than a Technician/EMT? no they wouldn't buy they might beleive that a Nurse or ODP with extensive emergency care experience both in and out of hospital and the qualifications and evidenced professional development to support it is better trained than someone who has had 6 - 8 weeks of clinical training ... Do you really think that "registration" automatically means someone is more appropriately equipped to deal with a medical/trauma emergency? have i said that ? i don't think that i have, i have however pointed out that despite whatever you may consider the Rregistered Professional's duty of care is not discharged until a proper , appropriate and in the best interest of the patient plan of care is in place and being carried out. You are pathetic! You are the worst type of healthcare professional because you do not understand, respect or recognise either your own limitations or the limitations/scope of practice of other healthcare workers. pot and kettle springs to mind there , a response typical of so many paramuppets when faced wit hthe reality that they do not have the ability or right to swan into a situatio nand metaphorically whoop their cock onto the table..
WelshMedic Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 I'm left wondering why on earth we are still trying to convince Zippy that he's full of shit. I think we all know that, at the end of the day, he will beat us into submission with his totally misplaced and misinterprated quotes. Zippy, I beg of you, please stop before I am forced to slit my wrists and die a horrible death whilst listening to Nick Drake. Frankly, at this point, that has more appeal to me than listening to you continuing to put our proud profession into disrespute with the folks here that do just an important job, whether it be registered or not. WM. You win, OK; I hope you are happy.
brentoli Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Somebody set up us the bomb!!!!! [sub:c5c597700b]What was this thread about again?[/sub:c5c597700b]
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