JakeEMTP Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 The news station article is better. She was the recipient but it was a group effort. http://www.wpbf.com/index.html Oh well then since it was only a foot, forgive me for overreacting. :roll:
itku2er Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 Its ok jake we understand :twisted: :twisted: But still a foot leg either way it was wrong and someone needs to be held accountable for their actions. But I do have another question where do they normally get the cavadars to train the dogs? Just my passing thought
Ridryder 911 Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 You know, after reading this and the CPR posts; should we ask ..."are we getting to big for our britches?"... Seriously, who in their right mind would ever believe it would be okay to remove a human body part and then flaunt it to others? Should we not be concern of the mentality that this displays? It was NOT just poor judgement, or "what was she thinking?" ... Rather, I am concerned that this person has some mental disabilities, obviously she cannot make competent and rationale decisions. Then the employer to continue to allow her to function is a slap to the victims and safety of the public's face! Unfortunately, we know why she is still allowed to work. Have we stressed so much of the importance of our so called profession and hero syndrome, that we failed to emphasize it is illegal and unethical to snatch body parts to take home to Fido? ... Duh!... Did we loose sight of what it is really about? That the emergencies and responses are really not about us (providers) but the patients! The more and more I read posts and articles the more I see our profession heading to the toilet. I can see where the public would want ambulance drivers back. It is a shame, but maybe we will have to add an additional chapter on Medical Ethics... "It is wrong to steal from patients ( including their body parts)"..... Time to start cleaning up our profession! R/r 911
Richard B the EMT Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 1) Until seen by the surgeons at the hospital that might attempt reattachment, the leg should have accompanied the patient, or been transported ASAP from disentanglement, to determine if it could have been reattached. Only then, if the answer was "No", IF local policies allowed it, should the limb have been possibly used for cadaver dog training. 2) Under traditional Jewish law, a body has to be either intact, or at least all in one place, for burial. It is my understanding, in Israel, they have specialists to painstakingly piece together people killed and blown apart by bombs, even the suicide bombers themselves, for their funerals. 3) There recently was a conviction on several persons who stole body parts from cadavers for transplant purposes. The thefts came to light when at least one of the many recipients got HIV/AIDS from the transplanted part. Did not these people consider the possibility that they were potentially moving a bio-hazard? I think not.
dougd Posted September 26, 2008 Posted September 26, 2008 Seriously, WTF? You know, part of me would love to actually hear her attempt to rationalize her decision - just out of curiosity in how a deranged mind functions. The other, more hammurabic part of me would like to see someone chop off her foot and feed it to her dogs. She needs to be terminated and prosecuted. Period.
VentMedic Posted September 26, 2008 Author Posted September 26, 2008 1) Until seen by the surgeons at the hospital that might attempt reattachment, the leg should have accompanied the patient, or been transported ASAP from disentanglement, to determine if it could have been reattached. Only then, if the answer was "No", IF local policies allowed it, should the limb have been possibly used for cadaver dog training. The limb should be sent to the hospital to see if it is salvagable or if a tendon, muscle or ligament may be needed for repair of other body parts. Then it becomes ME property until the patient or family signs acknowledgement of the extremity and its disposal or burial. Cadaver parts can be obtained but only through limited sources that are approved by the state with a declared purpose. This was in the paper today: "An FHP investigator took the foot to the hospital Wednesday afternoon, Frith said. He did not know who gave the foot to the investigator or where it had been kept until Wednesday." http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/tre...0,6586185.story +++++++++ What about all the other FFs that knew about this? Shouldn't they be reprimanded for this also?
pguy280 Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 What were they thinking . I would also like to know what about the other FF's
letmesleep Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 Does anybody else fell like it may be time to dig a trench along the Fl state line and sell it to Cuba or something? Hold off on building the great wall of AZ/NM.
VentMedic Posted September 27, 2008 Author Posted September 27, 2008 Just from Orlando, south! Oh please let me show off a couple of our larger FDs! Miami-Dade http://www.miamidade.gov/mdfr/emergency_stations.asp Firefighter Hiring Miami-Dade Fire Rescue is not accepting applications for the position of firefighter at this time. Our last intake, held from May 21 - June 6, 2005, brought in nearly 6,000 applicants. I bet the majority of the applicants already had their medic mill cert in hand. Palm Beach County Please check out the station/apparatus "showcase". http://www.pbcfr.org/stations.asp?view=text And then we have Broward County (Ft. Lauderdale) which has created another breed of FR under the SO. http://www.sheriff.org/about_bso/dfres/ Bigger is better?
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