BAN HBO and other PORN from EMS/Fire Stations

[iamyourgod]

the only generalities have come from people trying to justify an act they know is wrong. Lets bring our daughters to the staion and watch one episode of Real Sex on HBO. Where do you draw the line -- i too remember days when it was customary for rookies to get their balls painted with hydrant paint, or to endure other hazing rituals. When told to stop, the people screamed the same thing, " you are being too PC". It is part of the fabric of the fire department to haze rookies. Sex does not belong in the workplace -- show me a bank, insurance office, doctors office, or corporate office that aires the show Real Sex in their lobby, and i will shut up. Women have faced harassment issues since day one in our business, and most have kept their mouths shut, out of fear of being fired. Where do you draw the line -- if it is a non-work related activity that makes others uncomfortable, and is not fit for the public to see -- it doesnt belong in the workplace. If your wife came home today and said, honey, my predominately male office staff was watching soft porn or porn at work today, and it made me feel uncomfortable being the only female there, your attitude and actions would be different. But again, i am waiting on a logical reason for why this type of material belongs in a professional work setting -- but all i hear is diatribes against me, because you have no facts.

[Dustdevil]

Apparently you don't even know the difference between EMS and the fire service.

FAIL.

[scott33]

Beat me to it DD

There are many of us here who have absolutely no affiliation with the FD, and are happy to keep it that way.

Seeing as this is an EMS forum, do you still stand by your quoted figures? :roll:

[iamyourgod]

Wow how eyeopening -- please reread the posts everyone -- i have not called anyone a name or attacked anyones character --- i posted a simple subject and have had every part of my reputation attacked. Is this generally how you treat someone with a differing opinion ? I have not asked you questions about your personal life, made comments about your religion or lack thereof, nor have i said anything disparaging about anyone who disagreed with me -- I have commented on "acts" not people. I guess i now know why you dont understand why we are having such a tough time defining professional. Look at what has been said about me, your emsgod ? but if you bow before me, i will forgive you.

[Dustdevil]

I...have had every part of my reputation attacked.

You have no reputation to attack. That is a great deal of the problem here.

[emtannie]

the only generalities have come from people trying to justify an act they know is wrong.

WRONG.... specific generalities that YOU provided have been presented, and quoted back to you, so unless you are saying that YOU are wrong, don't even try that tactic.

but all i hear is diatribes against me, because you have no facts.

Once again, WRONG... several people have spoken up about your generalizations and lack of factual evidence, and provided specific experiences from their own workplaces which you have completely ignored.

Women have faced harassment issues since day one in our business, and most have kept their mouths shut, out of fear of being fired.

I suspect, and freely admit that I have no proof, that you have a very personal issue here, and are using this forum as a way to vent. Whoever you are, I have news for you.... EMS is not the only profession where women have been discriminated against... and been harassed... Women in any workplace have options... they can be professional and discuss it as an adult with the other party. If or when that doesn't work, there is a supervisor that can be approached. If or when that doesn't work, there is a human resources department... specific events must be documented to be effective. If the service that a woman is working for is harassing her and no efforts are being made by other staff or management to correct behaviors, why would she want to work there? Leave, and get work somewhere else.

And enough of the "all i hear is diatribes against me".... sounds like a tantrum.... people asked you to provide facts and information to support your position, and have proven that you have made sweeping generalities. Their requests wer not unprofessional - but your response was.

[scott33]

Look at what has been said about me, your emsgod ? but if you bow before me, i will forgive you.

Were you bullied at school? Perhaps forced to wear short pants up till 10th grade?

[Michael]

Dear iamyourgod: I apologize if my earlier post wasn't clear. It was meant to say that you've been posting the equivalent of porn here, which I disapprove.

[Just Plain Ruff]

to all the members of the city, there is a whole agenda going on with this person. I don't know what it is yet but there is an agenda that he/she has and is doing their best to promote is.

Just ignore em and they will go away.

[JPINFV]

Ah, I thought that this topic seemed familiar. Hi GAMedic. How's it going? Couldn't you come up with something new? After all, you pulled the "chaplain and daughter watching the programs" line last time you were here.

http://www.emtcity.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.ph...hbo&start=0