According to Incident Command who is in charge by a MVA?

[ghurty]

According to Incident Command who is in charge by a motor vehicle accident? Fire, EMS, or Police?

Thanks

[Diazepam618]

not sure what you are asking. are you asking who's in charge at the scene of an MVA? regarding the IC system.

[ghurty]

Yes

[Diazepam618]

usually the first in engine company officer will take comand, until a battallion cheif or duty cheif shows up and relieves them. you can still give orders as a company officer, but mostly you deligate without getting to your hands dirty.

[mobey]

Round here it is fire that has "Command" but really, they usually turn to us and say "Ok what should we do. (read: please give me your opinion, not "I don't know what to do")

[CTXMEDIC]

It should be worked out ahead of time by the head shed. Round here, the fire kids cut up the car if need be and we all help extricate the patient. if the patient is trapped and requires care, we get in and work the patient while they pull the car apart around us. My basic will prep the truck for patient arrival, ie. hang lines, get the monitor out, suction ready, stuff like that.

[CBEMT]

ICS FAIL!

ICS does not designate an agency, or even an individual or a rank, as Command for any particular incident or type of incident. Local protocol will usually determine that, but asking what the Incident Command System says about auto accidents is a major failure to grasp ICS 100 concepts.

[Arkymedic]

Amen. Glad someone else feels the same way as I do about this question that has been asked numerous times, numerous forums.

ICS FAIL!

ICS does not designate an agency, or even an individual or a rank, as Command for any particular incident or type of incident. Local protocol will usually determine that, but asking what the Incident Command System says about auto accidents is a major failure to grasp ICS 100 concepts.

[CTXMEDIC]

ICS FAIL!

ICS does not designate an agency, or even an individual or a rank, as Command for any particular incident or type of incident. Local protocol will usually determine that, but asking what the Incident Command System says about auto accidents is a major failure to grasp ICS 100 concepts.

Good point. Like we all agree on, its up to the department heads to come to an agreement ahead of time (local protocol). To the OP: Go take the 100, 200 and 700 courses for starters. Its online and its free. You even get a cool E-Certificate for your troubles.

[crotchitymedic1986]

First person on scene is in command until relieved by higher rank or skill. Most services then allow each agency to be in charge of their area, with the highest level EMS or Fire rank in command of the scene, but that could vary by region and by your resources (ie... Medics in charge of patients, fire in charge of extrication, PD in charge of traffic control, vehicles, and investigation). This is in reference to regular MVCs, not mass casualty incidents.

This should be spelled out in your community's disaster plan.