Iv Spiking Technique

[CBEMT]

If that's the case...we probably shouldn't use it!

Clearly. The result could be a schism in the space-time continuum that would make Jean-Luc Picard shit his pants.

[CBEMT]

It is worse than if you had actually killed multiple patients on purpose which would only get you a small fine.

You aren't kidding. The last time, I killed a bus full of special needs kids that had gotten into a minor MVA. Figured it was easier than writing 15 run reports, and son of a bitch it was!

I paid the fine with loose change and three stale french fries I found under the passenger seat of my car.

[tniuqs]

Well just me but I have been doing this for (fill in the blank) years.

Now if someone has an idea to stop nitrogen bubbles from forming inside both "Fliud Bag" and "IV Line" when assending to altitude (ie Flight in pressurized and unpressurized Aircraft), and a little thing called Henrys Law .... to stop the IV pump from alarming "air in line" incessantly ... hey I am all ears.

cheers

[spenac]

Well just me but I have been doing this for (fill in the blank) years.

Now if someone has an idea to stop nitrogen bubbles from forming inside both "Fliud Bag" and "IV Line" when assending to altitude (ie Flight in pressurized and unpressurized Aircraft), and a little thing called Henrys Law .... to stop the IV pump from alarming "air in line" incessantly ... hey I am all ears.

cheers

Turn off the alarm.

Actually as I have not done flight I had not thought of that. Good question.

[Chief1C]

Open the bag.. Open the drip set.. Close the roll clamp, pop off the plug, pull off the cover on the doohickey that goes in the IV bag. Fill the drip chamber to the lil line, attach the extension set, run in through. No gaps, no bubbles, quick and easy.

[Steve Whitehead]

I love Thom. He’s a great friend. I think we may want to brush this basic skill aside as too simple to warrant review but, for many of us, experience says different.

Perhaps the question should be, “How many times have you asked a trained EMT to strip out a line and then had them hand you a line with an empty drip chamber and a bunch of bubbles?” I think Thom might suspect that this information is more useful that anyone might want to say.

Steve

[Dustdevil]

Perhaps the question should be, “How many times have you asked a trained EMT to strip out a line and then had them hand you a line with an empty drip chamber and a bunch of bubbles?”

Why would I ask an EMT to set up my line for me when I have a paramedic for a partner?

Please let me know where that is happening so I can mark them off my list of potential employers.

I think Thom might suspect that this information is more useful that anyone might want to say.

I think you have misunderstood the posts on this topic. Nobody has said it is not useful or important. In fact, we have unanimously validated it. We're just commenting on how sad it is that an article has to be written about it when it should be standard technique taught in every school.

[Steve Whitehead]

We're just commenting on how sad it is that an article has to be written about it when it should be standard technique taught in every school.

Sure Dust. I hear you. And I agree. It should be taught and it should be remembered and the skill should be retained. But often it's not. If it's valid to know, it's valid to teach. even if the learning rate is less than optimal.

I think you could also make the argument that the EMTs who wern't motivated to learn or retain the skill the first time are unlikely to be motivated to read EMS Magazine each month either. I'm sure there's some truth to that.

Why would I ask an EMT to set up my line for me when I have a paramedic for a partner? Please let me know where that is happening so I can mark them off my list of potential employers.

I tend to have one other paramedic on scene with me, yet I rarely ask them to strip my line. That job often falls to the EMTs. Most of them do it well. Some don't. When one of my coworkers jacks my line, I fix it and we move on. If that rules my organization out for potential employment, so be it.

Steve

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[Dustdevil]

I tend to have one other paramedic on scene with me, yet I rarely ask them to strip my line. That job often falls to the EMTs.

I interpret that to mean you *might* get a paramedic first responder, but your driver is an EMT?

[Steve Whitehead]

I interpret that to mean you *might* get a paramedic first responder, but your driver is an EMT?

It means that when I'm on the medic there is a medic on the engine responding with me. When I'm on the engine there is a medic on the medic unit. My driver is usually an EMT. Sometimes he's a paramedic.

It means exactly what I said. I'm not sure what you're getting at here Dust?