Ohio Debates ALS

[CBEMT]

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A committee charged with finding ways for Columbus to save money has recommended that the city return to a basic emergency medical system.

The last time the Columbus Division of Fire provided only basic-level care was in 1968.

Since then, Columbus has provided advanced life support to anyone who calls 911 for medical attention, whether a patient needs it or not.

Basic care mostly involves stabilizing injuries before a patient is transported. Paramedics trained in advanced support can administer lifesaving drugs and treat heart attacks on the way to a hospital.

The economic advisory committee, appointed by Mayor Michael B. Coleman and City Council President Michael C. Mentel, suggested comparing costs and benefits of the current system with basic life support.

The group cited a 2005 study published in the Journal of Prehospital and Disaster Medicine that found that patients fared about the same. The study examined 22 previous studies, 18 of them more than a decade old.

"The (2005) study would lead you to the conclusion that whether you have advanced life support or basic life support, you really don't have much difference in the outcome," said Robert F. Howarth, a lawyer who led the committee.

"If there's no positive result or effect ... and basic life support is cheaper, then in fact the Fire Division could reallocate those assets and use them elsewhere."

http://www.jems.com/news_and_articles/news...ng+Cardiac+Care

Edited March 25, 2009 by CBEMT

[HellsBells]

Fucking assholes

[Dustdevil]

If there's no positive result or effect ... and basic life support is cheaper, then in fact the Fire Division could reallocate those assets and use them elsewhere.

Is this guy serious? Riddle me this, Mr. Arsehole Lawyer; If we reallocate those assets elsewhere, then who is going to operate the BLS ambulances that replace them?

I wonder how he'd like for paramedics to tell him how we should "reallocate" shyster lawyers assets to be used elsewhere? Think he'd be open to that?

Edited March 25, 2009 by Dustdevil

[spenac]

Is this guy serious? Riddle me this, Mr. Arsehole Lawyer; If we reallocate those assets elsewhere, then who is going to operate the BLS ambulances that replace them?

I wonder how he'd like for paramedics to tell him how we should "reallocate" shyster lawyers assets to be used elsewhere? Think he'd be open to that?

Me thinks I've heard this response somewhere in Texas before.

Perhaps all paramedics in the USA should converge and march on them to make a point.

[Kiwiology]

I am not even going to dignify this with a response I am sickened.

[Katiebug]

Are you fucking kidding me? You mean I wasted all that time going to paramedic school? All that stuff I learned doesn't really help people? Holy crap.

Maybe the hospitals should save some money by replacing the doctors with paramedics and nurses. Hell, if a higher level of care doesn't make for better outcomes, just think of how much money could be saved all the way around!

I think I'll go back to school and become a lawyer. Isn't that the first step to becoming a polititian?

[Dustdevil]

I once did a study that proves that 90 percent of all legal issues can be settled by cops. Maybe we should "reallocate" lawyers and save society some money.

[SANDMEDIC]

WOW!

I am just blown away. Even Mexico has Paramedics!

Maybe they need a new lawyer.

What's next for Columbus, Ohio.. "Mother, Jugs and Speed"

[WelshMedic]

The problem with a politician is that every time they get a brain fart, they feel the need to share it with everyone!

Chill, chaps, this'll never make it through legislature.

WM

[DartmouthDave]

LOL.....

ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check

for a pulse?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you

began the autopsy?

WITNESS: No.

ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?

WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.

ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive,

nevertheless?

WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and

practising law.

A few more........

ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?

WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?

WITNESS: Yes.

ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?

WITNESS: I forget.

ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you

forgot?

_____________________________________

ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that

morning?

WITNESS: He said, “Where am I, Cathy?”

ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?

WITNESS: My name is Susan!

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in

voodoo?

WITNESS: We both do.

ATTORNEY: Voodoo?

WITNESS: We do.

ATTORNEY: You do?

WITNESS: Yes, voodoo.

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn’t it true that when a person dies in his

sleep, he doesn’t know about it until the next morning?

WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?

____________________________________

ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?

WITNESS: Uh, he’s twenty-one.

________________________________________

ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?

WITNESS: Are you shittin’ me?

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?

WITNESS: Yes.

ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?

WITNESS: Uh…. I was gettin’ laid!

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: She had three children, right?

WITNESS: Yes.

ATTORNEY: How many were boys?

WITNESS: None.

ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?

WITNESS: Are you shittin’ me? Your Honour, I think I need a

different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?

WITNESS: By death.

ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?

WITNESS: Now whose death do you suppose terminated it?

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?

WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard.

ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?

WITNESS: Guess.

_____________________________________

ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a

deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?

WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on

dead people?

WITNESS: All my autopsies are performed on dead people. Would you

like to rephrase that?

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go

to?

WITNESS: Oral.

______________________________________

ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?

WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.

ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?

WITNESS: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was

doing an autopsy on him!

____________________________________________

ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?

WITNESS: Huh….are you qualified to ask that question?

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