Access to Armoured Vehicles

[matt202]

Would be interested to know whether or not those of you working with the police swat teams have the use of armoured casevac vehicles?

[Doczilla]

One team I work with has 2. The other has none, but has mutual aid agreements with other agencies to borrow theirs. Both agencies have mutual aid agreements with armored car companies to borrow their armored delivery trucks (similar to what was done in the North Hollywood shootout).

'zilla

[Richard B the EMT]

In, I think, the early 1970s, a sniper took up position with high powered rifles, in the Texas Tower. In TV movie reconstruction of the incident, they showed commercial armored trucks driving over GSW victims (high ground clearance vehicles), popping open the rear doors, PD jumping out and grabbing the victims, throwing them inside, and then getting them out of harms way for treatment, or transport to the temporary morgue.

Anybody have some similar arrangement with local armored car services?

[Doczilla]

In, I think, the early 1970s, a sniper took up position with high powered rifles, in the Texas Tower. In TV movie reconstruction of the incident, they showed commercial armored trucks driving over GSW victims (high ground clearance vehicles), popping open the rear doors, PD jumping out and grabbing the victims, throwing them inside, and then getting them out of harms way for treatment, or transport to the temporary morgue.

Anybody have some similar arrangement with local armored car services?

The Texas Tower Incident August 1, 1966. Charles Whitman took position on a clock tower at UT Austin and commenced shooting at passersby after killing his wife and mother. An armored car was used to access the wounded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_tower_shooting

The LAPD SWAT team commandeered an armored car during the North Hollywood shootout (2/28/97) to retrieve the wounded as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

The History Channel show Shootout! does a very nice job of detailing the NHS with 3D reconstructions and interviews.

'zilla

[Dustdevil]

In, I think, the early 1970s, a sniper took up position with high powered rifles, in the Texas Tower.

The TV movie came out in the 70s, so a lot of people probably mistakenly think the incident was in the 70s. I was overseas when it came out, so I didn't see it until a few years later, but I remember the movie had 1970s ambulances and police cars, with 1970s light bars on them.

I wonder if it's on DVD anywhere. I'd like to see that again.

[matt202]

Are the vehicles kitted as a dedicated casevac platform, i.e stretcher and ambulance equipment or are they just armoured vehicles with the rear seats removed?

[Richard B the EMT]

Matt, you used the term "casevac" now twice, and I just realized that I don't know the term. Please translate, and be ready for the sound of my hand striking my forehead (again).

If a local PD commandeers a commercial armored car, they probably use a portable or military type stretcher, after someone removes the money bags.

I believe the NYPD's 2 armored cars are both military Armored Personnel Carriers, using just those type stretchers, but if I am wrong, someone here will correct me, and I will welcome the update.

[akflightmedic]

casualty evacuation

[matt202]

As akflightmedic has said, casualty evacuation. IMHO having access to such a vehicle is an essential part of any tactical medical response.

regards

Matt

[Richard B the EMT]

Cas-Evac, not Case-Vac.

"SMACK!"