TRAUMA Premiere, 20 Sep 09

[FireMedic65]

To be fair, there's a good amount of history in Pawn Stars. Much more so, and thus more fitting on the History Channel, than Ice Road Truckers.

You mean watching people drive a truck isn't entertaining to you?

[JET EMT]

I just have one question for NBC, Who did they get for technical advisers on this "show"? It sure as #*## wasn't anyone in the EMS field. It looks more like 90210 with uniforms and strobe lights. I think that even the visual affects were better on Emergency, some 35 years ago. What happened to technology?

It would make a good training video though, just have students and probe's pick out all the mistakes and protocol snafu's.

That part of it is rather entertaining at least.

Just Sayin

[JPINFV]

You mean watching people drive a truck isn't entertaining to you?

The drama is, but I'm kinda of a trash TV junkie (I love White Trash TV... err, I meant Cops). That said, Ice Road Truckers belongs more on Discovery than History.

[VentMedic]

I am beginning to believe this show did such an overboard production with the first episode just to get attention. The second was not as ridiculous with some things toned down but enough over dramatization to keep people talking.

This may be just part of their strategy to get viewers. How many have viewed the links for the show just to see what all the fuss was about? Who would have cared if the show stunk or not if a few big organizations hadn't got involved and all the forums hadn't been discussing it? How many bad EMS shows or shows with an EMS character (The Listener) have come and gone?

Rescue Me got some of the same reaction when it debuted. The first few episodes really upset quite a few viewers, both FFs and the general public, who had placed FFs on a pedestal after 9/11. However, the characters and story lines are now strong enough to stand on their own with the fire station just being a place they happen to work and the show is not about fighting fires. If Tommy left the fire department his life's drama is still a decent story for a soap. In fact, those who want to see fire fighting are probably disappointed as that is no longer the emphasis. Those who get hooked on soaps do love this show. The title, Rescue Me, is also appropriate as it can imply FD and it can apply to the emotional turmoil or roller coaster each character is on.

Will Trauma and its characters be able to pull it off? I personally don't think the actors in this show are strong enough to pull it off.

As far the blonde, if a woman is going to do justice to the role of slut, she should have the beauty, class and some acting ability to do so. Rachel Welch managed to do that nicely in Mother, Juggs and Speed. Even if her acting ability was not always the best, her class made up for it. The blonde on Trauma has neither the class nor the acting ability to represent even the women in EMS who might be on the low side of professionalism.

[fireflymedic]

I know this is against my typical posts to this thread however, out of fairness to the actors I'm going here. They can't change the character they're given. If that's what NBC what's, that's what they'll get. Money talks much more to the actors than a bunch of rioting EMS workers. This is how they make their living, just as patient care is how we make ours. I'm not saying that makes the characters right, nor does it make them accurate. It just makes them what they are. It's kind of like the medic that works for two services. One service allows them to be very liberal in their treatment, the other is very restrictive. When with the restrictive service, they have to work to work according to what the script reads (ie protocols) even though they may want to do something different that is outside the protocols. The same applies to actors, they have a director to answer to as we do our med director. If they don't perform to expectations, they quickly find themselves looking for another job. I do have pity on the actors in a way as they have been given these scripts and told they are accurate or that's what they want. They are probably like much of the public and didn't know any different. I don't believe either of the female actors said "oh, oh make me barbie medic or the porno pilot". If they did, well that's an entirely different issue. However, I'm hoping to believe that's simply the plate they were served and expected to eat. If they didn't, they wouldn't scrap it, they'd just serve it to someone else.

I wouldn't be suprised should NBC pull it from their line up to relocate it to one of the cable channels as they have a few other shows. One can only hope the characters are developed more than a damaged medic, a barbie medic, and a pilot that to me seems confused as to what she is. Has the potential to be a good show if allowed to be, otherwise I see it joining the ranks of Saved in the scrap bin. You don't have to have everything perfect, but people expect more in a show that just blowing up lots of stuff and sex every show. That gets old quick and won't survive. Give your characters more of a personal story and interaction, couple tweaks here and there, and you could have a respectable show. Good luck NBC

[tniuqs]

As far the blonde, if a woman is going to do justice to the role of slut, she should have the beauty, class and some acting ability to do so. Rachel Welch managed to do that nicely in Mother, Juggs and Speed. Even if her acting ability was not always the best, her class made up for it. The blonde on Trauma has neither the class nor the acting ability to represent even the women in EMS who might be on the low side of professionalism.

Umm ..... OUCH .... I guess when your standing in the sunshine your bound to get burned a bit.

You make some good points: I too believe that any PR is good PR ... I have spoken with others in the medical community and because generally speaking because of the "hype" generated this has increased the viewers just to see for themselves.

cheers

[kyemt26103]

The sex part happens a lot more than the stellar looking chick part, that's for sure.

sounds like some of these people need to lighten up alot. dont take crap and themselves so serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JPINFV]

I know this is against my typical posts to this thread however, out of fairness to the actors I'm going here. They can't change the character they're given. If that's what NBC what's, that's what they'll get. Money talks much more to the actors than a bunch of rioting EMS workers. This is how they make their living, just as patient care is how we make ours. I'm not saying that makes the characters right, nor does it make them accurate. It just makes them what they are. It's kind of like the medic that works for two services. One service allows them to be very liberal in their treatment, the other is very restrictive. When with the restrictive service, they have to work to work according to what the script reads (ie protocols) even though they may want to do something different that is outside the protocols. The same applies to actors, they have a director to answer to as we do our med director. If they don't perform to expectations, they quickly find themselves looking for another job. I do have pity on the actors in a way as they have been given these scripts and told they are accurate or that's what they want. They are probably like much of the public and didn't know any different. I don't believe either of the female actors said "oh, oh make me barbie medic or the porno pilot". If they did, well that's an entirely different issue. However, I'm hoping to believe that's simply the plate they were served and expected to eat. If they didn't, they wouldn't scrap it, they'd just serve it to someone else.

I wouldn't be suprised should NBC pull it from their line up to relocate it to one of the cable channels as they have a few other shows. One can only hope the characters are developed more than a damaged medic, a barbie medic, and a pilot that to me seems confused as to what she is. Has the potential to be a good show if allowed to be, otherwise I see it joining the ranks of Saved in the scrap bin. You don't have to have everything perfect, but people expect more in a show that just blowing up lots of stuff and sex every show. That gets old quick and won't survive. Give your characters more of a personal story and interaction, couple tweaks here and there, and you could have a respectable show. Good luck NBC

I know who you are now... GPJ...

[Richard B the EMT]

Sorry guys, had to do it . . .

NickD, did you do that video tampering? Wow!

[tniuqs]

sounds like some of these people need to lighten up alot. dont take crap and themselves so serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok and there is something wrong with a SLAGFEST that disrespects the entire profession on a world wide basis, oh grasshopper best review your EMT origins and WHY Paramedicine was so well established with Gage and Desoto entrenching PARAMEDICS in the eyes of the public and the genuine concern for the public no mater what walk of life. Yea know sometimes I wonder why its cool to be the Gangster type instead of Boy scouts persona, a serious reflection of societal issues that have gone sideways. So pull up your BDU pants KY and put that hat on the way it was designed, the brim keeps the sun out of your eyes.

So its acceptable to Medium Weight LAND Helos on any old roof tops and not have issues? Hell even fly in down town areas SF with high rise buildings (bit of an issue there too, ahem a few members on board here were at the twin towers, just saying) and perhaps you are NOT aware of how many we have REALLY Good Men and Women we have LOST lately with those pilots that stretch the limits and sure then break all the rules and Protocols of EMS be unprofessional and on so many levels besides being inaccurate and misleading ?

Well, there is a way with multi media to get through to the Producers and EMS is speaking VOLUMES to them this very minute

Hell on an EMS TV show doesn't even do CPR correctly ???? NCIS NY(Gary Sinise)is better at doing CPR on TV for ****s sake, now there is a good role model and your military agrees with me. Perhaps look in the mirror to KY supposed TV heros like this rabbit guy are NOT, I repeat NOT good role models to the kids watching and could very well be the next Paramedics taking care of you.

NOW Besides the fact I wear a royal blue Nomex suit with a conterra radio pack myself and it just personally offends me, So the next person calls me Rabbit:

1-I will chemically sedate them

2-chemically paralyze them

3-then put a tube in every orifice

4- and make at least 3 more holes and they will wake up in an ICU asking ... man I so shouldn't have said that to Squint ... ok just kidding there

Hope your following grasshopper and if the ones that fund this show and writers ain't listening and clean up the act then it just could be rabbit stew and get killed off cause he was "bullet proof"

cheers <end Rant>

ps I am available as an on set advisor but I ain't cheap.

Edited October 7, 2009 by tniuqs