Kookaburra Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Wow, stay classy, guys. I can see the problem - sure, they likely have proper PPE on the fireground, but what about after, when driving back to the station? When they have to be in close quarters with a bunch of Cro-Magnons like the ones up thread? I wouldn't want any part of me on display. You can deny it all you want, but women exist in a state of pre-porn in our society (a woman is always evaluated on whether she is 'hot' or what would need to be done to make her 'hot' as evidenced by the replies to this thread) and to be taken seriously need to be on constant guard against becoming "porn-ized" and seen as a victimizable target... which would happen with a t-shirt that becomes transparent upon becoming soaked. 1
FireMedic65 Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Wow, stay classy, guys. I can see the problem - sure, they likely have proper PPE on the fireground, but what about after, when driving back to the station? When they have to be in close quarters with a bunch of Cro-Magnons like the ones up thread? I wouldn't want any part of me on display. You can deny it all you want, but women exist in a state of pre-porn in our society (a woman is always evaluated on whether she is 'hot' or what would need to be done to make her 'hot' as evidenced by the replies to this thread) and to be taken seriously need to be on constant guard against becoming "porn-ized" and seen as a victimizable target... which would happen with a t-shirt that becomes transparent upon becoming soaked. And women don't do the same thing about guys? Get over yourself.
aussiephil Posted October 22, 2009 Author Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) Wow, stay classy, guys. I can see the problem - sure, they likely have proper PPE on the fireground, but what about after, when driving back to the station? When they have to be in close quarters with a bunch of Cro-Magnons like the ones up thread? I wouldn't want any part of me on display. You can deny it all you want, but women exist in a state of pre-porn in our society (a woman is always evaluated on whether she is 'hot' or what would need to be done to make her 'hot' as evidenced by the replies to this thread) and to be taken seriously need to be on constant guard against becoming "porn-ized" and seen as a victimizable target... which would happen with a t-shirt that becomes transparent upon becoming soaked. Humans, both Male & Female are sexual beings. Men tend to be more open about where they will discuss the members of the opposite sex & how. Women will tend to discussit more in a closed environment with friends, but they are just as dirty as men. Stop kidding yourself. Women need a reason to have sex, men just need a place. So if they go for a different shirt that doesnt go transparent, should they change the entire uniform, including colour. Will they then complain that, if they gey cold water on them that ther nipples are erect????????????????? Edited October 22, 2009 by aussiephil 2
FireMedic65 Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Humans, both Male & Female are sexual beings. Men tend to be more open about where they will discuss the members of the opposite sex & how. Women will tend to discussit more in a closed environment with friends, but they are just as dirty as men. Stop kidding yourself. Women need a reason to have sex, men just need a place. So if they go for a different shirt that doesnt go transparent, should they change the entire uniform, including colour. Will they then complain that, if they gey cold water on them that ther nipples are erect????????????????? Very true. Women are just as dirty as men! Even the most innocent seeming females are crazy perverts. Guys are the same way like you said. Not all guys are as open as others, just like some women aren't as others. As for the uniforms, they should just dress in layers like it is recommended. That woman in the picture, the shirt she is wearing, a NOMEX forestry firefighting shirt. I have one just like it from when I was doing wild land firefighting. I put it on, and got into the shower (yes, I was bored). It was hardly see through, even with me just wearing that shirt. If I had on a dark colored shirt on under it (like it is recommended) it would have not been a problem. Also, wear a bra! Even thin normal shirts aren't see through when when and wearing a bra. Changing the uniform may or may not should be an option. Maybe the females can get a different color or material (such as PBI or something). But I really don't see the fuss. I have been on many forest fires where we have had water dropped on us. You lie down, face down to avoid injury the best you can. You don't stand there waiting for it.. that would be stupid. You don't stand in front of the hose line either, since water is scarce on wildfires.
Dustdevil Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 ...women exist in a state of pre-porn in our society (a woman is always evaluated on whether she is 'hot' or what would need to be done to make her 'hot' as evidenced by the replies to this thread)... Trust me, when they look like the woman in the article, the evaluation stops abruptly. She could drop trou and nobody would even turn to look.
aussiephil Posted October 23, 2009 Author Posted October 23, 2009 Trust me, when they look like the woman in the article, the evaluation stops abruptly. She could drop trou and nobody would even turn to look. She is a good bloke hey dusty!!!!!!
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