Dipping'

[akflightmedic]

I agree Wendy...he started out with a lot of potential.

A bit over zealous, false bravado chest thumping and full of himself but potential none the less.

He has made a nose dive hard and fast. Give him a little time in theater and then have him report back...he is fresh out of the gate and sounds young...I usually only see his type of mentality from the young Marines, but they do not hold the exclusive rights on that apparently.

Anyone else care to watch Full Metal Jacket tonight...cause these posts keep reminding me of it.

[Kiwiology]

Anyone here Dip?

Nah but you're a dipshit

Edited June 6, 2010 by kiwimedic

[tskstorm]

Nah but you're a dipshit

No reason for that Ben ... He certainly is not the brightest crayon in the box, but he's still a crayola.

[BlissEMT]

No reason for that Ben ... He certainly is not the brightest crayon in the box, but he's still a crayola.

Ya... even the Mac n Cheese color nobody could ever find a use for... still has the Crayola wrapper on it.

Oh btw. I have an EMT-B, but i am not an EMT. Dont call me one. EMT's only come out with BSI and when the scene is safe. We run out with bullets flying, and dont give a fuck about BSI.Its about a soldiers life, sending a father home to his children, sending a husband home to his wife, sending a son back to his parents. We conserve the fighting forces of this country. We supress enemy fire, its our first priority. Its insulting to call a combat medic an EMT. Thats an insult senior medics will use to call younger medics at times. Please dont call me an EMT. I appreciate all of you for what you do, its a tough job. Long hours, legalities, protocols, etc... but we are very different. We are a seperate breed of EMS.

OK, I understand that you're in the 101st Airborne. Congrats, you got an assignment with hype attached to it. Forgive me if I don't treat you as a superior officer, as my SO is currently deployed in Iraq on his 3rd tour, but doesn't have near the same ignorant, sexist, testosterone-fueled attitude you seem to have. Yes, in the 101st Airborne you won't treat a female soldier because there aren't any in the line you work directly with. But, in the above statement, you referred to "combat medics" so just because you are with a group of all men, doesn't mean you represent the majority of combat medics, who most likely do work with -- and treat -- female soldiers at some point in time or another.

As far as being called an 'EMT', it's not meant as an insult here. But, "Combat Medic" is your military title. You are nowhere near trained enough to be considered a civvy Medic. And some of your previous posts make me wonder if you even deserve the civvy EMT title. We understand that being called a Medic is respected, but here you don't have enough training or intelligence to be pulled into that group.

Again your not understanding me. I know females get into fire fights and whatnot, but i am assigned to an infantry platoon of all males. I go out with them. No females in the infantry. Im not saying females dont fight, but i dont treat females because of the type of unit i am in. I go one patrols and missions and whatnot with the infantry. I am a line medic. The females are in support battalions and HHC companies, which have their own medics. Im not saying i NEVER will treat a female, but i am in infantry. Support and HHC have their own missions and their own medics.

I am an EMT-B i know BSI is before everything as an EMT, but as a combat medic in the US Army its not too big of a deal. I know it sounds terrible to you guys because its drilled into you as an EMT. Its really different here. I wear gloves in garrison, dont get me wrong. But down there, you dont always have the time todo so. BSI is always good, dont get me wrong. My life and welfare is precious to me, but as a combat medic BSI is preffered but its accepted you wont always have time to get it on. Even in my civilian clothes i always have a pair of gloves in my pocket...but its just different here in the Army. I know its tough and it sounds outrageos to you all i can tell...but its about another persons life, not mine. Someone mentioned just wearing gloves when going into combat........i cant do that. Gloves let the enemy know i am a medic and they will shoot at me first. There arent enough combat medics in the army. I appreciate what all of you guys do. I am a different kind of EMS

It's not that we're not understanding you, it's that we want you to know we disagree with your opinion and think your way of thinking is wrong. BSI needs to come first, regardless of the situation. Knowing you don't take the few seconds it requires to don a pair of gloves before administering what will most likely be life-saving treatment makes me nervous for you and for the people you treat. You say you can't wear gloves because the enemy will know you're a medic and will target your first, which is probably true, but what do you think they will think you are when they see you saving a soldier's life? And if they happen to put it together and realize you are not protecting yourself or the people you treat, do you realize how easy it would be for them to screw up the rest of your life? Bullets are easily contaminated.

I mean no disrespect in what I've said here. I respect you immensely for being an American Soldier and for fighting for my rights to even say these things. But, just because I respect what you as a soldier represent, doesn't mean I respect or remotely agree with your opinion.

Be safe. And please also consider the safety and health of the other soldiers you treat. Protect them as much as you respect them.

[akflightmedic]

Yeh, the enemy totally looks for gloves to identify their next target in a fire fight...ummm, yeh.

Not enough combat medics in the Army...seeing how every Army soldier is to be trained in CLS (eventually)and they all refer to themselves as medics after that and having personally assisted in the training and testing for the Army "medics" in several different locations in theater...I would say there are quite a few. Are more needed? Sure it never hurts but after an IDF attack where I had 3 patients and 50 medics....we are good for the most part.

Some friendly advice is to quit blowing your trumpet so hard and as I said earlier...wait till he gets in theater and reports back.

We are not jealous, we are not putting down combat medics, we are supportive but there are plenty of us who have been there, done that and/or are still doing that. You however have demonstrated a serious inflation of one's self and it is quite alarming. You can not speak for every combat medic as you have done as you are one of the first I have ever met with such attitude and you have not even been in theater yet.

[armymedic571]

Dude........

What part of the stupid tree are you from?

"A different breed of EMS"......are you serious! Listen guy. Many of the current practices in civilian EMS come from the Military. HOWEVER, many of the military's current practices have been taken from Civilian EMS. I going to ask you nicely? Please think before you type...........please.

As far as not wearing gloves in Combat. Yes it is sometimes unavoidable, but to say that wearing nitrile gloves makes you a target.....ridiculous!!!!!

Wearing that excessively large trauma bag makes you a target.

Trying to be a hero and using a laryngoscope on a night OP makes you a target.

Pretending to be Audie Murphy instead of doing your job, makes you a target, and get you and other killed.

Are you tracking here????

AM 571 OUT!

[Richard B the EMT]

Many of the current practices in civilian EMS come from the Military. HOWEVER, many of the military's current practices have been taken from Civilian EMS.

I had stated that before, but it apparently was on a different string.

EMT is no insult. I started out as one. After many years, the NY State DoH allowed EMT Defibrillation with the SAEDs, and we were further trained to be EMT-Ds. After yet another while, DoH decided that the "D" was now a regular part of being an EMT, instead of a separate course, and they dropped the "D" in favor of a "B" for Basic. I'm cheap, so I never paid for a new nametag, which still IDs me as an EMT-D.

Depending on which NY County you are in, there's a bunch of assorted following letters indicating assorted levels of Intermediate levels of training, which eventually is followed by a "P" for Paramedic. We have several discussions on the City as to how extensive this state's Paramedic is, versus another, or even that of another country, which I hope this string won't become (save it for those other strings, dudes and dudettes!).

Again, I'm strictly a civilian and never in the military, but I'm presumtive enough to believe that there's several levels of Army Medic, and Navy Corpsman, with the alphaneumeric code to indicate which level they are at. I also know that I have had miliitary medical personnel in training ride with me in my little slice of heaven within New York City called Far Rockaway, and know the military has done so in Chicago, Los Angeles, Denver Colorado, and other large call volume cities, so these military personnel can get a small feel for emergency medicine, as well as trauma.

[chbare]

You are correct, the Army health care specialist is very much an entry level provider not unlike an EMT-B.

When looking at the Army, you essentially have your primary role, known as a military occupational specialty (MOS). I believe the current nomenclature for the Health Care Specialist "medic" is 68W. A suffix can be added to identify rank/pay grade. For example, when I went through, the medic was known as a 91B. As a lower enlisted bubba, my official MOS was 91B-10. When I made SGT, I became 91B-20.

For medical specialists who receive additional tranining in specialties, an additional suffix so to speak can be added. This is known as an additional skill identifier (ASI). For example, the ASI for a practical nurse is M6. So, a health care specialist educated and qualified as a practical nurse would have this ASI after the MOS. With that, I am talking about the enlisted system. A similar system of MOS identifiers exists for the officers that include nurses, physicians, medical service corps, medical specialist corps and veterinary.

Take care,

chbare.

[Lone Star]

I agree Wendy...he started out with a lot of potential.

A bit over zealous, false bravado chest thumping and full of himself but potential none the less.

He has made a nose dive hard and fast. Give him a little time in theater and then have him report back...he is fresh out of the gate and sounds young...I usually only see his type of mentality from the young Marines, but they do not hold the exclusive rights on that apparently.

Anyone else care to watch Full Metal Jacket tonight...cause these posts keep reminding me of it.

[tskstorm]

I don't think Doc D is capable of unfouling himself!