tniuqs Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) To be fair, if Canada attacked us, it's be the 51st+ states. However a country didn't attack us, religious fanatics did. Religious fanatics do not dominate any of the major monotheistic religions and all of the monotheistic religions have parts of their religious text that they aren't too proud of in the modern world. It's not hard to go through the Torah or Bible and pull in-context quotes that support fanaticism. they aren't too proud of in the modern world. Topic #1: The justification of juxtaposition of the "good books" JPINFV: This is your personal value judgement ONLY, but let us keep supporting the oppressive nature of the "hide the womens faces group" then 'keep the uneducated masses down and controlled" and interpret the "good books" for those followers, heck its just the Taliban / Al-Qaeda way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda Topic 2 the Invasion of Canada. Ahem: Best look to your history books .. we Kanukistanian's yea Ok so we conscripted a few Brits too, came down for a "visit" in 1812/1814 and burned your White House OUT. A direct result just because YALL pissed us off wasting perfectly good tea ! We left because we ran out of booze and went home, can you blame us ? (this tax thing is just evil foreshadowing in the grand scheme of my long winded point) Sooo: DON'T MAKE US DO IT AGAIN ! And our Canadian Security Intelligence Service ( CSIS ) well what can I say, they are brilliant they have located the booze cabinet and where you hid the silverware from last time ... just a caution to YALL USA has Night Vision Goggles. Canada has SNOW (just try to hide in that)<insert very evil laugh> During 9/11 an Air Cabbage Flight that was planned to be hijacked, but it "broke down" and this is how we know that "stashed" box cutters were used to overpower the Hijackers, go figure EH must have been CSIS figured that one out ? Topic 2: The crazy before coffee ramblings. And agreed no ONE country did attack the trade centers it was a Jihad movement and using one of the "good books" to justify their attack. Now because of very lax immigration laws (Canadian Government being dang near criminal) then factor in the North Americas Industrial Might and "globalization plan" to rape and plunder the primary resources as fast as possible/profitable, importing low income laborers once again based on the tolerance and religious freedom concept. Would you like to hear my theory on just why there was an economic global resection, nah you would not believe that the oil barons were attempting to control the biggest "piece" of the expense pie labour. Topic 3: The conspiracy theory. BTW I heard that an "out of work architect" said that the twin towers fell "too fast" So just how fast will an loaded with full fuel Airline size aircraft impacting a building at cruise speed is supposed to fall a building 9is there an EBM study ?)well that is way beyond my diminutive comprehension. Some claim this attack was staged by BUSH himself to start a War against the Axis of Evil ... ah you got to love the whacker conspiracy theorists. Topic 4: bureaucratic domination. Meanwhile back with feet planted firmly on the ground. Thanks to Richard B. and his "in-sight" that the bureaucrat's and building codes in NYC will stall the entire process is almost humorous. So a Question: Has this peace loving and sensitive to the feelings of New Yorkers, has this Muslim group applied for "tax exempt status" and have they applied for a "development grant" this is what is occurring in Canada. MY tax dollars are given to "groups" to build their "houses of worship" and I have zero say in it all (called vote buying by some) So in my hood the minarets are popping up everywhere I look and the grain elevators are disappearing at an alarming rate ... ! cheers Edited August 6, 2010 by tniuqs
Happiness Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I would like to believe that I am a very tolerant person that doesn't envolve myself in racism. I would have to agree that that this mosque building is in fact a slap to the faces of those who A survived the attacts, and B lost loved one's in the attack. There's one image I will never forget in my life is watching that second plane hit the twin tower's live on TV. The first plane was first thought to be an accident before the second one hit. I personally do not go to the city and see muslims as terrorists nor do I really give it much thought to be honest, dont know why just dont. The people who are organizing this are really missing the target and disrespecting those who are truely going to be effected by this event. As I have heard they are actually going to do the grand opening of this High rise on Sept 11, OMG that is just wrong on so many levels. As it has been said it was individuals who created 9/11 but unfortunantly they were Muslim and now that faith is always no matter what anyone says or does going to be associated with terrorism. I would like to know who originally thought that putting a Mosque near ground zero and having a Grand Opening on Sept 11 was good idea ever.
Lone Star Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I would like to believe that I am a very tolerant person that doesn't envolve myself in racism. I would have to agree that that this mosque building is in fact a slap to the faces of those who A survived the attacts, and B lost loved one's in the attack. There's one image I will never forget in my life is watching that second plane hit the twin tower's live on TV. The first plane was first thought to be an accident before the second one hit. I personally do not go to the city and see muslims as terrorists nor do I really give it much thought to be honest, dont know why just dont. The people who are organizing this are really missing the target and disrespecting those who are truely going to be effected by this event. As I have heard they are actually going to do the grand opening of this High rise on Sept 11, OMG that is just wrong on so many levels. As it has been said it was individuals who created 9/11 but unfortunantly they were Muslim and now that faith is always no matter what anyone says or does going to be associated with terrorism. I would like to know who originally thought that putting a Mosque near ground zero and having a Grand Opening on Sept 11 was good idea ever. If what you say is true about the 'Grand Opening' being held on September 11, doesn't this show that the whole mosque thing at 'Ground Zero' was an intentional kick in the teeth to those that were slaughtered there and their families? Ripping open wounds that are starting to heal is NEVER a 'good thing', and to intentionally do it, just to inflict additional pain is counterproductive to the 'healing process', and just down right cruel. I haven't seen anything about the 'Grand Opening', but if it IS true, how can this be a step toward 'unity'?
tniuqs Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 On another 'note' this link is interesting / intriguing : http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-jewish-leaders-ground-zero-mosque,0,4584604.story Oddly enough proceeded by a commitment of BP to clean up the mess and destruction of GOM. (We will make this Right HUH ?) I digress. Still 61% of New Yorkers polled are opposed to this building of this structure. Should this NOT be a major definitive factor in a country dedicated to a democratic process or let the courts interpret the First Amendment ? The voters say NO ... so hold a plebisite / referendom is the only FAIR thing to do IMHO. cheers TN the Racist or Equalist (you decide)... is that a word ? .. well it should be !
JPINFV Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Still 61% of New Yorkers polled are opposed to this building of this structure. Should this NOT be a major definitive factor in a country dedicated to a democratic process or let the courts interpret the First Amendment ? If this is construed as a freedom of religion issue (i.e. anything but a mosque is fine), then decidedly not. The entire reason that rights and powers are set in the constitution is to prevent mob rule. If 60% of the country wanted to bring back slavery, should we? Ask Chicago right now about what happens when a majority (albeit all I know for sure is a majority of elected representatives) supports an unconstitutional law post McDonald v Chicago.
Happiness Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 The date of Sept 11 being the date of the opening was refered to in an interview with a Canadian that lost a Family member on Canada AM. I tried to find the interview but couldnt.
tniuqs Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) If this is construed as a freedom of religion issue (i.e. anything but a mosque is fine), then decidedly not. The entire reason that rights and powers are set in the constitution is to prevent mob rule. If 60% of the country wanted to bring back slavery, should we? Ask Chicago right now about what happens when a majority (albeit all I know for sure is a majority of elected representatives) supports an unconstitutional law post McDonald v Chicago. I have no idea what McDonalds vs Chicago is aboot ? (well ok I looked but how this has any bearing on this issue I fail to see. (I do believe every non-criminal should have a gun. btw) Frankly when we need Laywers / Judges to "interpret" the "intent" of the Laws, then we do have a real problem right here in River City. ps and oh yea O.J. didn't do it pfft. Your statement about slavery is kinda out in left field, although I am a slave to pay taxes perhaps we as a majority should take a vote on we want a reduction in tax ... anyone on board for that referendum ? AS IF. But confusing mob rule = democratic process is way over the edge of rational thought process. My personal bottom line is I am totally fed up with political correctness / appeasement of special interest groups when the feelings and wishes of the majority is blown off like a leaf in the wind. Just what issue becomes the "end point" ? The idea that Happi notes of Sept 11 being the grand opening confirms the initial post was quite correct "A Slap in the Face" cheers Edited August 6, 2010 by tniuqs
Happiness Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mosque_madness_at_ground_zero_OQ34EB0MWS0lXuAnQau5uL In this artical it refers to the opening date of sept 11 2012.
Lone Star Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mosque_madness_at_ground_zero_OQ34EB0MWS0lXuAnQau5uL In this artical it refers to the opening date of sept 11 2012. The opening date shall live in infamy: Sept. 11, 2011. The 10th anniversary of the day a hole was punched in the city's heart. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mosque_madness_at_ground_zero_OQ34EB0MWS0lXuAnQau5uL#ixzz0vs5tLNix
tniuqs Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 I just read the Commentary by the others at the bottom of the page .... quite interesting. Pro and the Con. Defiantly worth the click see.
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