Versed fail, I need a trainquIlizer gun

[P_Instructor]

Valium, Versed, Vitamin H (Haldol), Sledge Hammer.....whatever works with your safety in mind, do what you have to do. If you get the PD involved, you will probably will have to deal with the tasered patient, etc. You might want your Med Dir. to revamp the sedation/restraint protocol to meet your needs if you deal with a number of 'this' type of patient........

[Richard B the EMT]

It has been my experience that if a LEO cuffs a patient, they accompany their cuffs in the ambulance.

(Also, my preferred anesthesia for disruptive patients remains a Louisville Slugger, LOL)

[uglyEMT]

Another reason to be careful if you restrain a patient!!

NJ probes death of man tied face-down by EMTs

positional asphyxiation

[Richard B the EMT]

Positional Asphyxiation? OMG, I thought it was universal, no patient, except one with something impaled in their back, was EVER transported face down. On their side, to observe for that patent airway, perhaps, but on their back? Nope!

However, before I condemn, I want all the facts on the case referred to.