Build your own paramedic school

[Just Plain Ruff]

Time for one of my contests again. Previous winners got some pretty good stuff.

Build your own paramedic school. Tell me what you would have the students learn and what classes you would have them take.

What would the clinical hours in the hospital and out be?

How many hours for each subject or key area of study?

I'll look for a nice prize in my stack of EMS stuff that I never use anymore.

End of contest is January 5th.

The sky is the limit as to this.

[FireMedic65]

Associates degree program.

A&P 1 and 2 are a must (semester each) both with labs

College English 1 and 2

A computer class

A math, higher than basic math. (med math can be taught in depth during actual medic training)

Medical terminology

A course in phlebotomy

Pharmacology

EVOC

A communications class

Some sort of rescue. Be is rope rescue, vehicle rescue, what ever so the providers have an awareness of what to do before rescue/fire arrives.

these are pre-reqs required before starting the medic program

Actual medic program will be intense. Quizzes every class, hands on scenarios every class. Skills stations every class. You must pass them. Testing you have to have 80 or above to advance in the program (harsh maybe.. but the "passing is passing" never settled well with me).

Instruction will be from educators and experienced providers. People who read from power points need not apply. Students now how to read.

Instruction on a chapter will take more than a night of class. Some things take longer than others. But A lot of info is a lot of info to absorb in one class.

Clinical will be intense. Students will not sit around reading their texts. They will work. Preceptors will be asked to put them to work and grade them on performance.

Clinical will also be extended. A few hours in a certain location is not enough. The majority of our learning comes from hands on experience. They will get it.

You will pass all stations/skills before allowed to perform in clinical.

[Bieber]

I'm a dreamer, but oh well. Just tread carefully on my dreams.

The end result would be a Bachelor's of Paramedicine. Classes during and following the spring semester of the second year until the end of the program would be five days a week 9a-5p and during clinicals and internship each student would be precepted by and paired with an individual RN/paramedic with whom they remained throughout the rotation and would follow their preceptor's full time schedule. I'm not sure what the end total hours would be, but for the internship and clinicals it would be one year each of full time paramedic and RN work. Classes and sections should cover each topic to the full extent possible having each class every day five days a week for each semester going into and including chronic and non-emergent diseases not typically managed by EMS providers.

Year 1

Fall Semester

-Anatomy and Physiology I (with lab)

-English I

-College Algebra

-Psychology I

-Biology I (with lab)

Spring Semester

-Anatomy and Physiology II (with lab)

-English II

-Chemistry I (with lab)

-Biology II (with lab)

Summer Semester

-Medical Terminology

-Pathophysiology

-Clinical Anatomy

Year 2

Fall Semester

-Chemistry II (with lab)

-Microbiology

-Emergency Medical Technician-Basic

-Pharmacology

Spring Semester

-Immunology

-Cardiology (including CPR + ACLS)

-Endocrinology

-Pulmonology

Summer Semester

-Anesthesiology

-Pediatrics (including PALS/PEPP)

-Gastroenterology

-Nephrology

Year 3

Fall Semester

-Obstetrics and Gynecology

-Infectious Disease

-Neurology

-Traumatology (including PHTLS)

-Hazmat/Operations

Spring Semester

-Clinical Rotations (ER, ICU, OR)

Summer Semester

-Clinical Rotations (Elective Clinicals; e.g. flight medicine, rural medicine, etc.)

Year 4

Fall Semester

-Clinical Rotations (PICU, OB, Clinic/Physician's Office)

Spring Semester

-Field Internship

Summer Semester

-Field Internship

Year 5

-Fall Semester

-Field Internship

-Ambulance Operations (including CEVO)

Do I think this will ever be reality? I doubt it, much as I might wish it.

[chbare]

I remember doing this in 2008 prior to my visit to friendly Afghanistan. I detailed a three year programme. I imagine that thread is still here if people want to reference it.

Take care,

chbare.

[spenac]

I remember doing this in 2008 prior to my visit to friendly Afghanistan. I detailed a three year programme. I imagine that thread is still here if people want to reference it.

Take care,

chbare.

LOL I won the shortest Paramedic course award. But actually is good to revisit and see if the newbies can help us redesign.

[paramatt_]

A very experienced (and now retired) colleague was telling me how he loathed the recent higher education & degrees in the field. As a relative newbie I respectively disagreed. Anyways, here's what I'd do.

Full time semester based classes over 3 years for a bachelor degree.

Basic level of math, English, sciences, etc is implied.

1 A&P I (including a bit of bio refresher) and lab

Communications (combo of interpersonal, conflict resolution, and public speaking)

Basic Life Support I (i.e. first 1/2 of EMT course) and lab

Elective of psych or sociology

2 A&P II and lab

Basic Life Support II and lab (w/ short ambulance rotation)

Intro to research & evidenced based practice

Medical/legal & Ethics

3 Pathophysiology I

Intro to Pharmacology (including chemistry)

Case studies (including intermediate skills and scenario lab)

Mental Health

Clinical Internship (Emergency & Psych)

4 Pathophys II

Pharmacology I/Cardiology - double subject (including ECG interpretation)

Advanced skills & lab (ACLS based)

Clinical Internships (ambulance, ICU)

5 Pharmacology II

Pediatrics, Obstetrics & Gynie

Evidence Based Research Project

Clinical Scenarios & Skill Lab

Clinical Internships (Peds, NICU, birth unit)

6 Kinematics & Trauma and Lab

Major Incident Command & HAZMAT Awareness

Public Health/Epidemiology

Clinical Internship III (ambulance)

As for time, the ambulance blocks (other than the first one) would cover the length of breaks between semesters, or just about. The clinical rotations would be for 120hrs for emergency and 40 or so per each sup-specialty.

[ERDoc]

I'm going to go with any PA curriculum with EVOC and scene management added on. I would remove some of the less relevant material (don't really need to know how to time colonoscopies and mammograms) and put a stronger emphasis on emergency medicine related material. Obviously it would lead to a bachelors degree.

[BAYAMedic]

Ok ruff, heres my submission

3 year Associates Program with first year being Non-Program

Fall Quarter

Biology 101 (5 cr)

English 101 (5 cr)

Communication 101 (5 cr)

Study skills Workshop (1 cr)

Winter quarter

Biology 241 (A&P 1) Lab based (5 cr)

Psychology 101 (5 cr)

Math 101 (Intermediate Algebra) (5 cr)

Spring Quarter

Biology 242 (A&P2) (5 cr) Lab Based

Psychology 238 (Abnormal Psych) (5cr)

Health 104 (health and lifetime fitness) (3 cr)

Sociology 101 (crossing cultural Barriers) 5 cr

PE class (3 cr)

Summer off

Fall year two (program)

ALS 201 (Intro and history of EMS)

ALS 202 (Pharmacology I) ( with an emphasis on RSI and Respiratory drugs)

ALS 203 (Documentation and legal)

AlS 204 (Paramedic Skills lab {PT assesment {lung sounds, Heart tones, Bowel tones, etc}, iv access and intubation})

ALS 205 (Pharmacology math)

Winter Year Two

ALS 210 Cardiology

ALS 211 Pharmacology II (emphasis on anti-arrythmics)

ALS 212 Anestesiology Clinical ( OR Rotations minimum of 25 Intubations)

ALS 213 IV Therapy rounds and ER Clinical

ALS 214 Medical Pt Assesment and Pathophysiology

ALS 215 Trauma Assesment and mitigation (including PHTLS Cert)

Spring year 2

ALS 220 Pediatrics (including PALS cert)

ALS 221 Geriatrics (including GEMS cert)

ALS 222 ER clinical Continued

ALS 223 Trauma II (including FARMEDIC Cert)

ALS 224 Pathophysiology II

ALS 225 OB/GYN & NEONATOLOGY

Summer year 2

ALS 230 Field Internship II (cross cultural experiance, IE Rural Washington student to Atlanta, GA)

ALS 231 Field Internship III (very rural, long transport time excess of 1 hour) 5 call minimum

ALS 232 Prevention (Working within community, teaching first aid)

ALS 233 Field Internship I (Local agency or who student is affiliated with)

ALS 234 Bridging the gap ( You and your medical director)

Fall year 3

ALS 300 NREMT Prep

ALS 301 Internship if not compleated

BLS 100 Assisting in Teaching an EMT-B Class

ALS 302 Leadership and professional Development (resume building and interview coaching)

ALS 303 The Paramedic in atypical Positions (lecture from EMT-T's, Industrial site, Mining operations, Offshore, and contract military medics)

[brentoli]

Fall year 3

ALS 300 NREMT Prep

ALS 301 Internship if not compleated

BLS 100 Assisting in Teaching an EMT-B Class

ALS 302 Leadership and professional Development (resume building and interview coaching)

ALS 303 The Paramedic in atypical Positions (lecture from EMT-T's, Industrial site, Mining operations, Offshore, and contract military medics)

Can I offer a comment? I'm not making a submission. I think you would rather go the route of an instructors class. A good one would be 3-4 college hours plus internship. Any paramedic worth something should be able to teach a BLS class, just my opinion.

[spenac]

Can I offer a comment? I'm not making a submission. I think you would rather go the route of an instructors class. A good one would be 3-4 college hours plus internship. Any paramedic worth something should be able to teach a BLS class, just my opinion.

In theory that is true but in reality not all people are good teachers. You could take even many highly educated doctors that could not teach a basic class not because they do not know the material but because they are not teachers. Unless you mean they could go up and read the slides, but I'm sure that's not what you mean.