celticcare Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 I'm still waiting for my sandwiches!!!!! Damn women at gym and socialising, where's a man to get fed and revered around here. I'm off to the gentlemens club now. (null)
Kiwiology Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I'm still waiting for my sandwiches!!!!! Damn women at gym and socialising, where's a man to get fed and revered around here. I'm off to the gentlemens club now. LOL at gentlemens club I think they have food at the whore house, y'know at least a vending machine or something, or wander down to the takeaway shop two feet down the road after you're finished
Just Plain Ruff Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) GUYS, none of us on this site will ever be asked to be a member at this Elitist club so tell me again why the F we should care? Tell me again, how many on this forum out of the thousands of members we have on this site actually play Golf? Again, tell me why should we care about this? Edited April 9, 2012 by Captain Kickass
mikeymedic1984 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Posted April 9, 2012 It has nothing to do with golf, it is just that golf happens to be the vehicle for discrimination this month, in this setting. It seems there are two camps on this one, one that says discrimination is wrong regardless of where it happens, and those that champion the right of a private club or group to select whomever they want, and not have quotas or membership decisions forced upon them.
DwayneEMTP Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Good summation Mikey... For those in the camp that believe that this is wrong...how do you justify forcing people that have spent their own money creating an environment of their choosing to allow others into that environment? When I have a BBQ at my home I choose the guests, as it's my home and my money paid for everything. Should I then be forced to allow the homeless/black/gay/(name your favorite non included group) neighbor to come and participate in the spirit of inclusion? The concept is the same, right? Only the scale is different? I'm hoping that it goes without saying that I don't have a personal exclusion list based on such things. If I throw a bachelor party for a friend, am I then an elitist or sexist because the wives are not welcome? I can't imagine wanting to be part of an 'male only' environment. I love female energy. But because I don't see the value in it doesn't mean that it should be disallowed in my opinion.
Just Plain Ruff Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Dwayne, my answer to your paragraph For those in the camp that believe that this is wrong...how do you justify forcing people that have spent their own money creating an environment of their choosing to allow others into that environment? You can't force them. If you do force them then you become just as wrong as those who you were trying to make "right" in the first place. Those who shout Tolerance the loudest often refuse to promote tolerance the most. Do you think that a all black club that has been all black for many many years would bow down and allow a white person membership into their club without a fight? not likely. Do you think that Curves would allow men in their club without a huge fight or even the threat to shut their doors? I think not, they pride themselves on a men free environment promoting it as a safe alternative to the meat markets of the health clubs. The only ones who seem to be pissed off at these exclusive clubs are the ones who can't get in them. Sort of class or membership envy I say. There is a bar in a neighborhood in KC that is known to be an all black bar. whites have been for many years turned away at the door. It's been common knowledge in the neighborhood that if you are white, you are NOT welcome at this bar. Can you imagine trying to get that bar to change it's admission policies? Not without a fight.
Kiwiology Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) When I have a BBQ at my home I choose the guests, as it's my home and my money paid for everything. Should I then be forced to allow the homeless/black/gay/(name your favorite non included group) neighbor to come and participate in the spirit of inclusion? The concept is the same, right? Only the scale is different? I bet Dwayne would invite some smelly black homosexual but wouldn't invite me ... Just as well. I don't want some smelly black homo at the BBQ it would probably make Dwayne uncomfortable Hmm that didn't sound very nice I know perhaps I will consume another burger and that will prevent me from being able to say such things while my mouth is full. Edited April 9, 2012 by Kiwiology
Just Plain Ruff Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I know perhaps I will consume another burger and that will prevent me from being able to say such things while my mouth is full. But what are going to do with your hands while your mouth is full???
Kiwiology Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 But what are going to do with your hands while your mouth is full??? Use them to drink beer or point at Dwayne so the Police know who to arrest for drunken and disorderly conduct?
Richard B the EMT Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Women should be allowed in the club, unless they are chasing after Tiger Woods with a 9 iron!
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