Personal D Tank in NYC

[MariB]

Not to Mention the massive liability

[Just Plain Ruff]

It's only liability if he's using it on someone else other than him or his family.

[MariB]

It's only liability if he's using it on someone else other than him or his family.

he is loving thy neighbor

[Just Plain Ruff]

there is a time for loving thy neighbor and in a disaster when your family comes first, that time is NOT the time.

[MariB]

there is a time for loving thy neighbor and in a disaster when your family comes first, that time is NOT the time.

Kinda getting away from what the op is asking tho. He wants it for more than his family.

[miscusi]

Why not use your skewed sense of ethics and just have it filled at the EMS Service you work for, I mean since cheating is ok in your book wouldn't it be ok for you to just fill it at your company?

You lost me on this one.. I cant remember what you are referring to about the cheating, I do believe that spouses should be able to date outside marriage but you cant be a part of that forum too??? but anyway, it is my personal D tank, If it isn't possible to do it on my own, I wouldn't want it. however I do think it is possible to do it on my own.

You have a linweld close by? We fill our own small tanks off our big ones. If I had a personal one for ems responses in our area, I am sure my service would allow me to fill off the tank we use.

I checked, I don't see any linwelds... My Agency has a service that refills for us, again, If it isn't OK for a trained first aid person to have his own tank then I wouldn't want to try to circumvent any existing rules by getting one from the agency...

But in all seriousness, just go to your boss, tell him that you are purchasing one for personal use and ask him if you could fill it. Im sure you aren't going to be emptying it very often right?

If you fill it more than once a year, then he might get suspicious that you are providing oxygen to people who you should not be giving oxygen to. And how often will you be using the personal oxygen tank and how often are you faced with the need to use it?

I don't think I would use it at all, but hey, its pretty cheap, and if the occasion arises it can really help a patient.

You will probably need a physician's prescription/order, but I'm sure if you google oxygen therapy you can find some places. Whose license will you operating under when you use it?

according to my research, O2 is avail without prescription for first aid uses (emergencies) 6 LPM or greater, 15 minutes or more...

http://www.redcross.org/images/MEDIA...ctandSkill.pdf

HE"S BACK

I'm back sir, yes.

THIS. Oxygen is technically a drug and you need orders for it. How will you properly store this in your home? Will you place the appropriate signs stating there is oxygen on site??? You're in NYC...what situation would you be in that you have time to go grab this huge heavy tank, bring it to your "patient" location, and administer it when EMS is probably seconds away?? Unless NYC is becoming like DC and EMS units are unavailable for critical patients ...

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/23508351/sick-toddler-taken-to-hospital-on-dc-ladder-truck

This just seems like such an awful idea.

according to my research, O2 is avail without prescription for first aid uses (emergencies) 6 LPM or greater, 15 minutes or more... http://www.redcross.org/images/MEDIA...ctandSkill.pdf , I would just leave it the oxygen bag, no signs, its just a D tank, not huge or heavy, EMS is never seconds away, I think its a good idea because its cheap, and I like the idea of having it if the need arises...

"I am going to buy one for my home emergency kit. ( you never know, love thy neighbor and etc "

Your home emergency kit is for YOU and your family. It's not for your neighbors or your home emergency kit becomes nothing more than a neighborhood emergency kit.

I have a home emergency kit, it's set up to be able to treat my family and extended family if need arises. That family includes myself, my wife, my 3 kids and my dog. My extended family includes my parents and my wifes parents and no-one else.

Each other extended family member has their own emergency kit.

I am NOT about to provide any of my emergency supplies to a neighbor or stranger in a disaster situation because the stuff I use on those people takes one more thing away from my family in that disaster and that's just not going to happen.

Now if I (or you for extension) feel altruistic and want to set up a 2nd emergency kit for "others" then by all means do that but the family emergency kit is for family only.

And trust me, once people know you are an EMT and you have an emergency kit, they will be banging on your door wanting help. Best you keep your emergency kit hidden until needed or you will find that it will likely be taken by someone stronger and better armed than you.

I live in an apartment building, we are all friendly here and most already know that Im an EMT, and I do tell them that if they ever need help, they can always try my door if they want to.. I might not be home but its worth a try, hey you never know, and as for family, sure why not ? you can decide who you want to help. Some people hate their family.

Or you can just post a big sign on the fence that says :::

WHACKER CENTRAL

HA ! no one outside EMS would know what that sign means !

Not to Mention the massive liability

the liability should be covered by the good sam, since its just for first aid use.

[scubanurse]

In Topic: Starting EMT BASIC soon!

09 August 2013 - 02:08 PM

Here is some advice:

EMT course is very compressed, a lot of stuff to learn in very little time.

I find that most students fail because they have not budgeted time for the course.

for every hour you spend in the class, budget 2 hours for studying and practical skills practice.

My class here was 110 hours.

including all the work outside, it became more like 300 hours.

another thing... do not cheat.

Cheating is ok if no one gets hurt, such as when you took Spanish 101 and had that little translation app open the whole time.

but in EMS, cheating hurts, patients will die and it will be your fault !

so keep it honest, when taking multiple choice exams, be aware of the questions you are not sure about, and review them thoroughly afterwards.

YOU said cheating was fine.

Check your local protocols... everywhere I have worked as an EMT-B, Paramedic, and now RN, it requires a prescription or protocol.

Your cocky attitude will get you nowhere here.

[miscusi]

It's only liability if he's using it on someone else other than him or his family.

Good sam ?

he is loving thy neighbor

I wish ! shes way hot ! ( ugh, there goes that cheating again )

Its really for "whatever", emergency preparedness , first aid kit. Im even considering having my own AED. but damn $$$$

In Topic: Starting EMT BASIC soon!

09 August 2013 - 02:08 PM

YOU said cheating was fine.

Check your local protocols... everywhere I have worked as an EMT-B, Paramedic, and now RN, it requires a prescription or protocol.

Your cocky attitude will get you nowhere here.

oh THAT ! LOL, yeah, cheating is fine when what you are cheating about is insignificant...

[miscusi]

"Check your local protocols... everywhere I have worked as an EMT-B, Paramedic, and now RN, it requires a prescription or protocol"

that's just the thing, it isn't about EMT B P or RN.. there shouldn't be a protocol because its just First Aid.

[scubanurse]