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The question was not the causes it was the mechanisms [the person knows the causes], and its called the 5 H's and 5T's, not 4.

Regards.

You can also use 6H's and 6T's but the causes are all closely related. Some even use PATCHHHH MD for the causes, and if it is the mnemonic you need to help you remember, then go for it.

Hairs effectively split.

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I was a paramedic for 34 years, and a combat medic on the line for two years. I know how to do my job. I don't feel that you are in a position to judge my career. I did my best working as a medic, a funeral director, a service owner, and watching my best friends die.. So that I could provide for a family of ten, give them a comfortable life, put them through college, two through medical school, and one who followed in the footsteps of the funeral service.

The point of my post, was offering an anecdote to the abbreviation PEA. I didn't go into detail.. If you want to run through every possible protocol that exists for cardiac arrest, weather or not they all use the last resort meds, go ahead. I assume they would already know how to do their job, and I wasn't questioning anyone.

I was not trying to criticise your medical judgment, I was merely stating that for a paramedic to beg for resuscitation to discontinue seems to be rather occlusive, hence the funeral statement I made, maybe I lacked sympathy, but again I don't understand why anyone would beg, after administering two drugs. A paramedic ought to be able to make a discission without consulting an 'operator', maybe things operate different in America.

No harm intended.

Regards.

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Also consider Hydrogen Acidosis and Coronary Thrombosis

Man I haven't heard those terms in a really long time. :wink:

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