Auto-Pulse

[akroeze]

Have seen the auto pulse and like it. Especially helpful when you dont have extra hands with you. (i work for a transfer service and only two of us for a code) The only negative thing I have heard is about a lawsuit involving broken ribs. Hmm..did not know ribs would break during compressions :? The FD here has it also and has reported quite a few saves with it.

A transfer service carrying an autopulse? How often would you use it transferring patients? :shock:

[Ghost-Tech]

By the way a seizure can result in cardiac arrest----a pro-longed seizure can result in cardiac arrest....I know i didn't provide enough info but its not unheard of. Lack of oxygen from a pro-longed seizure can have this result. Obviously there would be a cause for the seizure itself but in such as the case mentioned in the beginning of this discussion the presentation would be correct....it just lacked the full briefing for some that found it appalling.

[Dustdevil]

The only negative thing I have heard is about a lawsuit involving broken ribs. Hmm..did not know ribs would break during compressions :?

Interesting. Eight dollar an hour EMT does CPR and breaks ribs = no lawsuit.

Fifteen thousand dollar machine produced by highly insured, billion dollar company breaks ribs = lawsuit.

Who'd a thunk it? :roll:

[Ghost-Tech]

It will never be perfect but our agency just bought 12 and I know Hotzolah has many in use already. Its a growing trend. Don't be afraid to modernize.. I seen the product demo and It has potential. I know it is effective when used correctly and it has many safety features that alarms you and will shut itself off. Like all cpr, better to break the ribs that not do cpr at all...lawsuits happen no matter what you do.

[hammerpcp]

Wasn't there some similar contraption around in the seventies? It was discontinued because nobody ever used it, due to that it was such a pain to set up? Anybody remember that? Similar to the Genisis ventilator.....what a joke that thing is. Why do we have a zillion fire fighters around if they can't do compressions for us?

[hammerpcp]

I forgot to say.. Maybe it was a hypoxic seizure caused by the heart attack? Not the other way around? Just a possibility.

[Dustdevil]

That is usually the sequence of events. V-fib commonly results in a seizure.

It's like the old hip scenario. Did the hip cause the fall, or did the fall break the hip?

[hammerpcp]

If it's osteoporosis the hip broke and then the pt fell.

[akroeze]

Wasn't there some similar contraption around in the seventies? It was discontinued because nobody ever used it, due to that it was such a pain to set up? Anybody remember that? Similar to the Genisis ventilator.....what a joke that thing is. Why do we have a zillion fire fighters around if they can't do compressions for us?

Genesis is great for extended transport times in rural Ontario.

[hammerpcp]

Well you are the only person I have ever heard of who uses it. It has just been taken off the list of mandatory ambulance equippment by the MOH. But if it helps you that is good.