Asysin2leads Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Bellicose, listen to me you little wannabe pencil neck dick. I'm glad you think you're a hero, but I've seen crap like yours before, and it cuts no ice with me. I was a firefighter myself for 3 years, my brother is a professional firefighter, and I am good friends with quite a few of them. You're nothing but a little punk who needs to stop dressing up in his fireman's costume before you get someone hurt. Real firefighters are not cocky. They are incredibly careful. Real firefighters do not go on and on and on about their bravery and the risks they take, they do their jobs and go on with their lives. So don't try and insult me or anybody else on this sight with the YOU DON'T KNOW crap, or lecture them about what firefighting is 'really' like, there is more knowledge about firefighting operations and tactics on this site then probably anywhere within your department As for the not risking their lives stuff, in the past year I watched as three members of EMS were laid to rest after dying from the shit they breathed in at the World Trade Center site, adding to the other members of EMS who died in the line of duty that day. Attend some of their funerals, then feel free to tell their grieving families how only firefighters risk their lives. Maybe after you become a medic, if you try someday, you can be a firefighter too. Until then, here's a friggin t-shirt, here's a helmet, you're a hero, now get the fuck out of my sight.
Dustdevil Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Firefighters have a reason to be cocky.....FF's and medics save lives, but only one risk their lives. Me thinks I'm going to chunder. :pukeright: I have been in every facet of "public safety" as a paid professional, and I never faced nearly as much danger as a cop or fireman than I did as a medic. Take your rookie school bravado and go find some teenaged girl to impress, because nobody here is buying that self-righteous egotistical crap. Cocky, me arse. The day we bury your crispy carcass you might have earned our respect, but right now you're not fooling anybody but yourself. The idea that we are not a part of the public safety network is why EMS is always left out. More utter bollocks! The reason EMS is always left out is simple supply and demand. Too many uneducated wankers for too few low-expectation jobs, and most of them willing to do it for free or minimum wage. Has nothing to do with a public safety perception. The water department and street departments and facilities services departments and the schools aren't public safety, and they seem to run just fine with great funding and making more than us. And look.... imagine this... nobody VOLUNTEERS to be a free road paver or water engineer or teacher! What about transit workers? City bus drivers? Their job is one hell of a lot closer to ours than "public safety," yet they still manage to make more than we do, working a lot fewer hours, and with tonnes less training. Consequently, they get funded and paid, even without spiffy uniforms and badges on their chests! If it took two years of college to be an entry level medic in this country, you would find no more people willing to do it for free. You would also find a lot fewer people doing it at all. And they would all be professionally educated, not 120 hour night school commandos that can be trained and replaced weekly. You would find NO fire chiefs salivating over the prospects of cross training his people for two years just to garner a few extra budget dollars. And suddenly community leaders would find themselves with no other option than to do the right thing and treat EMS as a professional entity in and of itself. Or die. Don't be a retard. That badge you got into this business for is worth nothing but a cup of joe at the Paki Sack on a good day. It is not going to get you any professionalism, money, or respect. In fact, it is going to keep you from all three as long as you cling to it. Want to be a public safety servant? Go for it. Much respect. We need you. But that's not what EMS is about. Get your head straight or get out. You're holding the rest of us back. Now, pass me the Gravol. :roll:
craig Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Bellicose Do you want the medal or the chest to pin it upon? :shock: wow fire fighters are cocky cause they risk their lives....... so how many domestic disputes do you attend that have guns or knives involved......... here in NSW the AMBULANCE rescue units (thats technical rescue) carry out extremely dangerous rescues, ie vertical, high angle, swift water. building collapses, natural disasters and the like. They are ALL trained in Chemical Biological and Radiation responses for emergencies (think terrorism) Thay are traine in Hazmat fully encapuslate suits and BA. AND this is the SPECIALISED UNITS the every day ambo, has to attend these incidents as well. bit late to tell them that when they arrive the gun toting angry husband has just shot his wife and is still on the scene. Look mate you fireies are not the only ones that have dangerous jobs, and have the problem of being injured on duty or if god forbid killed. Reminds me of the past work colleague that was stabbed with a syringe full of blood saving his female partner from getting stabbed in the back with the same needle. wake up get a life, grow up maybe people will respect you then....remember..... RESPECT NEEDS TO BE EARNED NOT DEMANDED.........
JakeEMTP Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Firefighters have a reason to be cocky.....FF's and medics save lives, but only one risk their lives. Those of you that posted negative comments disgust me. If you knew how utterly scary it is to going into a burning building even when you're completely trained then you would have alot more respect for what firefighters do. Its not like the movies....its dark as night...no visibility....and very hot even with all the gear. Within minutes your bottle even gets heated up enough that the air your breathing is hot. You have to crawl(unless you want to melt your helmet) and find where you are in a building and or house you've never been in just by your sense of touch....with tools in one hand, pulling hose in with the other hand, while training to maintain touch and/or verbal contact with the rest of your crew. All the while you've got very restricing gear that weighs around 50lbs. I respect medics very much and look forward to starting medic school in august but to compare the two trades......NO FUCKING WAY!!! :roll: I don't know where you are located, however I would hazard a guess that you maybe attend 2 at most situations a month where you have to do this. This is exactly the attitude we were talking about in the other thread about fire, where some other wanker wrote about this kind of hero syndrome. Get over yourself. In the mean time while you're waiting for the next towering inferno, polish that truck! It looks dirty. Oh, and btw, don't forget to show up at the next MVA, we need someone to direct traffic.
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