emt-b pay scale

[Ztenec]

Either way, both pay scales suck.

If I were making 9.00 an hour in a metro area, yes that may suck. However, you also have to look at cost of living in the area and benefits that the employer offers.

So with this company (and in this location) the pay is not bad especially with the benefits they are offering.

To continue the thread further you have to take into account means of lifestyle. To some people they need 40k, 50k, 60k or more to live comfortably. I grew up saving a lot and not being materialistic, so I don't purchase many things now which makes the money seem better.

I have no idea what I'm writing now, I just woke up so hopefully something up there made sense.

[KE5EHI]

Taco Bell 2004 Employee's = 167,000

EMT-B's = 490,649

Plus Taco Bell employee's get to wear that cool uniform and eat all the Taco Bell related food products they could want.

Is there really even a choice?

The correct answer is there isn't...Vote Taco Bell in 2008.

Taco Bell is just one company nationwide, where EMS is one service nationwide. So I would think you would have to factor in all of the fast-food services (ie McDonalds, BK, Wendy's, etc) for comparison for employee numbers. Then you would also have to take into account the demographics of fast-food workers to EMS personnel (which some places can be a thin line, both high and low). So I would see that there are much fewer medics (which usually requires a higher level of education) than fast-food workers. Then you have to ask, would you prefer a grill and fryer or lights and sirens?

Then you have to think about the fact that most fast-food is paid for up front. As for EMS, well, we all know that answer.

...plus we get 50% off at Taco Bell

[EMSFrog]

I live in the eastern part of Missouri. EMT-B's make around 11/hr if they work for one of the three private services that are in this area. The private services run about 80% transport however. The county EMS agencies in the rural areas pay around 8/hr, but they only hire EMT's part time and they prefer EMT's working toward their Paramedic cert, and from this pool of part timers they hire their full time paramedics.EMT-B's make around 11/hr as er techs in one of almost a dozen hospitals in the area.The casinos pay around 14/hr for EMT/Security Guards. Medics in this area start at around 50k/year working for the suburban county services.About 30/k in the rural counties.The private services pay medics around 14/hr. As far as a shortage of jobs most people say their is not especially if your willing to work for the private services or in an E.R. That sounds like a crappy situation in other parts of the country. I graduate EMT school next week and am tentatively starting paramedic school in the fall, but I sure hope I can find a job in the meantime i wont graduate medic school until fall of 07'

[hfdff422]

Then you have to ask, would you prefer a grill and fryer or lights and sirens?

I would prefer to be part of a greater good. I would prefer to effectively help my patient. Please do not use the lights and sirens aregument in here as it wears very thin. The reason that the pay for emt-B's is low is quite simply that people do this job for the lights and sirens. You take a 6 month course, are fed some crap about duty and are given free reign with woo-woo's and the pretty red and whites. If it were not that simple to get the cert and people were in it because they wanted to find the best way possible to help people in their time of need and believed they had the ability to mitigate bad situations, then the field of EMS would advance quicker than it has.

[haro0501]

in minnesota

EMT-$15-25/hr

Medics-$30-35/hr

all shifts are 12 hours minimum and paid double after 40 hours per pp

[PRPGfirerescuetech]

I would prefer to be part of a greater good. I would prefer to effectively help my patient. Please do not use the lights and sirens aregument in here as it wears very thin. The reason that the pay for emt-B's is low is quite simply that people do this job for the lights and sirens. You take a 6 month course, are fed some crap about duty and are given free reign with woo-woo's and the pretty red and whites. If it were not that simple to get the cert and people were in it because they wanted to find the best way possible to help people in their time of need and believed they had the ability to mitigate bad situations, then the field of EMS would advance quicker than it has.

Im astounded that someone hasnt called you on this already.

Heres begins the list of points your wrong on.

1.) Do NOT suggest that every EMT-basic is here for the (L&S) effect. This is a huge generalization that has absolutely no basis.

2.) Your thesis is geared towards EMT-basic as LS junkies. This is a system-wide issue, where people are more interested in operations than care, and advancement of education. Medics / EMT's / First Responders / PHRNS....whatever.

3.) There are many reasons why the field hasnt advanced quick enough as it should. Education of all ALS and BLS personnel being a primary example, vollunteerism being another, as well as multiple others. The primary reason is NOT being of your half asses stupid theory about how every basic is in EMS because of the "cool woo-woo's"

I have read several of your posts recently, and they all are geared toward removal of BLS staff, basics suck, basics this, and basics that. You have a issue with education? Lets be productive. Come up with ideas on what to do, and how to bering this said change. Your opinion is baseless at best, with no information behind it with exception of a profound dissatasfaction with your current certification level.

Leave the silliness off the boards, and be a productiive member of the community.

[Dustdevil]

I have read several of your posts recently, and they all are geared toward removal of BLS staff, basics suck, basics this, and basics that. You have a issue with education? Lets be productive. Come up with ideas on what to do, and how to bering this said change.

I agree with you, PR, that progressive change is better than simply whining about the status quo. But, back here on Earth, we also know the reality. That reality is that the powers that be will not allow progress. EMT education cannot be increased because the fire chiefs will block it solidly everytime. It doesn't matter that EMS physicians and educational professionals nationwide are pushing it every chance they get. The politics of the fire service and the "it's all about me" volunteers will not allow it.

So, obviously a frontal assault is suicidal. The firemonkeys will shoot us down everytime. That means if we are ever to be successful at elevating the profession, fire service involvement has to be either emasculated or eliminated. That is just as likely, for the same reasons.

Consequently, if Bledsoe and the other heavy hitters of our industry can't get it done, then grumbling about it is just about the only option the frustrated professional is left with, besides moving to Canada. So really, I see no point in begrudging anybody their rant on the topic. It's all we have.

[PRPGfirerescuetech]

I agree with you, PR, that progressive change is better than simply whining about the status quo. But, back here on Earth, we also know the reality. That reality is that the powers that be will not allow progress. EMT education cannot be increased because the fire chiefs will block it solidly everytime. It doesn't matter that EMS physicians and educational professionals nationwide are pushing it every chance they get. The politics of the fire service and the "it's all about me" volunteers will not allow it.

So, obviously a frontal assault is suicidal. The firemonkeys will shoot us down everytime. That means if we are ever to be successful at elevating the profession, fire service involvement has to be either emasculated or eliminated. That is just as likely, for the same reasons.

Consequently, if Bledsoe and the other heavy hitters of our industry can't get it done, then grumbling about it is just about the only option the frustrated professional is left with, besides moving to Canada. So really, I see no point in begrudging anybody their rant on the topic. It's all we have.

Any system can change, with the right people behind it. With time, patience, and good ideas, as well as appropriate influence, progression will occur. Nursing didnt become its powerhouse overnight.

But...baseless whining with incorrect information will get you nowhere, and is better left unsaid, or in a blog. If your going to whine, at least have the information about your gripes straight before you post.

Otherwise, amen dust.

[Scaramedic]

So, obviously a frontal assault is suicidal. The firemonkeys will shoot us down everytime. That means if we are ever to be successful at elevating the profession, fire service involvement has to be either emasculated or eliminated. That is just as likely, for the same reasons.

Consequently, if Bledsoe and the other heavy hitters of our industry can't get it done, then grumbling about it is just about the only option the frustrated professional is left with, besides moving to Canada. So really, I see no point in begrudging anybody their rant on the topic. It's all we have.

I have an idea, here me out on this one. We pick a day, mmm how about May 1st. We all refuse to go to work. Of course all of us not being at work will only hurt a small percentage of people, you know those pain in the butt patients. We protest all across the country, tying up traffic, chanting, and screaming into bull horns about EMS rights. We can also have all EMS school students walk out of their classes, so what if they miss something stupid like the pharmacology.

Of course there is a slight chance we might just alienate a lot of people. Nahhh.

Lets do it! :director: :protest:

What? Oh forget it. Someone else is already doing that. DAMN!!!

Peace,

Marty

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[Nate]

OMG, I would laugh if someone tried to pay me $6.75 an hour. A lifeguard at the local pool makes $7.50.