Remove Rated R and Rated X Programs From Your EMS Station ?

[GAmedic1506]

How many ems stations have the paid cable TV channels that show rated R or worse movies after hours (which means full frontal female nudity and profanity) ? If your station still has these channels, you should remove them. And before you get all enraged about what I am saying, ask yourself, "Would I sit with a county commissioner, the department Chaplain, or my daughter, and watch these programs ?" Or better yet, how would I feel if my daughter had to sit in the room with five men and watch these programs every day she came to work ? Sexual Harassment is one of the few issues where the victim gets to determine what is harassment. But it is not only the sex issue, the language in most of these programs would be horribly offensive to any one that is remotely religious. Can you imagine the employees in any corporate office sitting around watching soft-porn while at work ? This practice should have died in the last century, talk to your boss about changing your station to a professional work-environment. Lets see what your thoughts are:

[Ace844]

Are you intentionally trying to stir SHTUFF and start flame wars or is this just baseline cognitive function for you????

ACE

[GAmedic1506]

No, this is a serious subject that is currently getting lots of departments in trouble. Many may not be aware of recent sexual harrassment cases where far less provacative activities have cost employers big money. If you wish to debate the issue, please indicate where i am wrong, with facts and not emotion or personal attacks. I am very interested as to how you will defend your right to watch porn while on-duty.

[SSaint]

GAmedic,

Yes, it can be an issue. But, it seems to me like you're standing on a soapbox, and preaching.

My advice is to let the matter drop. You're guaranteed to stir schtuff up, as Ace said already. I don't think we need anymore flame wars.

[medic429]

:roll:

are you kidding me?

[GAmedic1506]

It is a cut and dry legal issue, not an EMS/FIRE issue. It is just that we in Fire and EMS seem to be the last to catch on to what the courts are saying. I guess you are assuming that our employees are too immature to have a fact-based debate without a war, so I will honor your request and remove any reference to Fire. We will just discuss this issue as an EMS station issue.

[JPINFV]

Of course this is important because

1. There is always a female coworker around (does it really matter if no one else is around?)

2. Females NEVER see an R rated film.

3. The only reason films are rated R is because of sex?

[GAmedic1506]

Well one of the first elements of an harassment case is that you have to prove that the workplace was uncomfortable for an employee (male, female, religious, age, whatever). Now of course, you usually have to go a step further and show that the complainant made you aware of the issue, and the employer failed to fix the problem. You may not be aware, but if two women are telling a racy-sex joke, and a third female overhears the joke in the same room, and is offended, it can be harassment (which is why I bring the subject up, many are still under the impression that sexual harrassment is only about a man trying to get sex from a woman -- that is no longer the case).

But this isnt about female employees. The real question is what is "profesional" in the workplace, regardless of who might be offended (what you do at home is your own business). What if a citizen walks-in your station at 10 pm for medical attention, B/P check, or directions, and there is soft-porn on the TV ? Could you defend that to your community ? There is no inbetween, either it is professional to watch these type of shows on-duty or it isnt. What is your opinion ?

[SSaint]

I will say that I don't think it's professional to watch PORN. But you're not talking about porn.

And I still maintain that your soapboxing...

JP brings up valid points too: Should we ban all R-rated films then?

My crew likes the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon series... both of which are R-rated...

And we have a thing for horror films... R-rated.

So what? A film that has nudity is now harassment?

[whit72]

Gamedic wrote:

But it is not only the sex issue, the language in most of these programs would be horribly offensive to any one that is remotely religious

Your in EMS, I am told to screw, go f*#k myself, why don't you blow me, why don't you drop dead you piece of sh*t. Those are the bystanders, I haven't even got to the pt yet. This isn't a G rated field.

As far as watching porn on duty, I don't really feel the need. If full frontal nudity happens to be in a movie that is on I think we are all mature enough to handle it.

We watched Wedding Crashers that's an instant classic. It had some nudity and adult themes, however no one felt the need to contact the chief, supervisor or any congressmen.

I am sure there are many cases where true sexual harassment exists, however watching an R rated movie, or listen to someone drop a couple of f bombs, isn't real offensive to me.

If your offended you need to say something, I have enough going on in my head during the day, then worrying about if I drop a swear here and there you might be offended. Tell me I will try to curtail it to maybe every other word......LOL