Flu shots

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[firescapes]

Again RELISH thanx for your support ..Now as for the post above me here...perhaps you could do some research into what actually goes into the vaccines....you want some facts and figures on the deaths attributed to the side effects of drugs and vaccines(something that is not ever published by our beloved Gov't) Take up some reading by Deepak Chopra...if you don't know him he is a DOCTOR (Endocronologist) He will tell you there are more deaths attibuted to this than all the wars put together...something our Gov't fails to tell us...now if yoou don't believe the the PHarma boys are in this for bucks and not healing..heres a litlle tid bit for you. I ran a call several years back in Toronto's west end. The call was at Apotex Canada.Alarms were ringing and thankfully it turned out to be a malfunction. I sent my crew to investigate as I walked slowly behind them in this massive warehouse observing as I went. Now if you have seen the movie Raiders of the Lost Ark, the size of the warehouse in it is the same as this warehouse was. I suddenly stopped dead in my tracks...here were these skids piled 40ft high and went on for well over 600ft in length. They were all cases upon cases of generic brand drugs, It was at this point that it occured to me that this business was exactly that BUSINESS:not about healing but busines;making bucks.So!! to confirm this...I had radioed the communications centre and they informed me the owner was on the way...rember this was 3 in the morning. A stretch limo(mercezes) pulled up and the owner got out along with his wife and others...he was in a black suit and his wife had the familiar black veil with only here eyes visible...Im not saying what country as I do not want to imply any racism,,,but the fact is this was a middle eastern Business gentlemen ...these guys do not invest there money just to be a do gooder....no matter where a business man is from they all invest there money for return...there is only one difference between drug pushers and presciption pushers....one action is legal the other is not.....they are all pushers for one reason...and that is to make money. Don't get me wrong I m not saying all meds are bad...just that alot are...we have an addictive society out there...its funny how the peeople strung out on the valium family will sit and poo-poo some one who is smoking pot or whatever. Food for thought!!As far as vaccines go we put so much crap in our system we can no longer produce our own antibodies.Its funny now how they are discovering that even the polio vaccine is soomehow now attributed to Fybromyalga

[SSG G-man]

Well, if we want to take some of these anti-vaccine ideas a step farther, why don't we do away with medicine all together. We can lower the average life span, save on Social security, ease global warming, extend how long fossil fuels will last. IF we do not want to mess with the body to prevent disease, why should we do anything to cure it once disease appears. are we not interfering with natures plan by keeping people alive when nature was trying to cull the herd?

It would seem hypocritical that someone in the medical field could be so anti-vaccine. As I said above, if you do not want to prevent, why are you in the business of treating the symptoms once they occur. It would be like being against seat belt use, or helmets for motorcycle riders, etc.

Maybe I only feel this way because I had my flu vaccine and am being controlled by the pharmaceutical industry and the government.

[firescapes]

Just another tid bit for you Ridryder911 ....Back when I was in the Navy in the 60's they injected us with every known vaccine ...get a little sick with it....HMMM! try almost death....I was carted off to sick bay hospital ...left sitting in the hallway for hours (guess I was a wimp getting sick like that or so the staff thought leaving me there that long )finally this doctor dude comes along and takes a visual on me from down the hall...and yells out "get this man into a bed" I am in the bed and this beautful euphoria comes over me ,so peacful so placid like nothing I have ever experienced.nothing mattered anymore I had no pain no ache...just peace(this was before anyone had even examined me)..In the faint background I could hear the doctor giving them shit because of my condition having me sit in the hall...here I had a 105 degree temp full blowm puenomia amongst who know what else...the fact of the matter is I was on deaths doorstep as a direct result from the vaccine.Say what you will as far as parents being charged with neglect well...guess you are one of the ones who would like to hand over all power to the Go'vt and have them rule every facet of our life with no freedom of choice whatsoever....well dont take offence to this please.... the sad truth is we are almost there already...why does everyone want to make everything a law and mandatory giving all our power away...let big brother look after us ....we might as all well be robots!!

[firescapes]

...you tell me why cancer is rampant...chemicals in the ground chemicals in the food ,chemicals in vaccines,you think they dont know...think again...hey they can put a man on the Moon...but can't cure the common cold,,,,...the masses need to give their heads a shake...time to wake up!!oR...don't wake up at all...I don't Ramble on just to ramble...Ive worked for the Gov't for 32 yrs total and I can assure you, they most definetly lie to the public about what is going on....you as a soldier know that to be true!!

[Ridryder 911]

Back when I was in the Navy in the 60's they injected us with every known vaccine ...get a little sick with it....HMMM! try almost death....I was carted off to sick bay hospital ...left sitting in the hallway for hours (guess I was a wimp getting sick like that or so the staff thought leaving me there that long )finally this doctor dude comes along and takes a visual on me from down the hall...and yells out "get this man into a bed" I am in the bed and this beautful euphoria comes over me ,so peacful so placid like nothing I have ever experienced.nothing mattered anymore I had no pain no ache...just peace(this was before anyone had even examined me)..In the faint background I could hear the doctor giving them Ca Ca because of my condition having me sit in the hall...here I had a 105 degree temp full blowm puenomia amongst who know what else...the fact of the matter is I was on deaths doorstep as a direct result from the vaccine.Say what you will as far as parents being charged with neglect well...guess you are one of the ones who would like to hand over all power to the Go'vt and have them rule every facet of our life with no freedom of choice whatsoever....well dont take offence to this please.... the sad truth is we are almost there already...why does everyone want to make everything a law and mandatory giving all our power away...let big brother look after us ....we might as all well be robots!!

A couple of things, I highly suggest you either read or learn on how and what pneumonia is caused by and second the euphoria feeling is quite natural in hyperthermic patients.

Ignorance thinking that a vaccine caused pneumonia, should be addressed that you were probably already harvesting such either viral or bacterial prior to immunization, or that you immune suppressed prior and your body was unable to "fight or resist" such, even stress, poor diet can do as much.

I do however, think it is asinine to be promoting unfounded 'paranoia", "delusions" and panic. As healthcare providers we should promoting the adherence of vaccinations, and healthy living. I guess you are not aware acquired community pneumonia is one of the highest killers among the elderly and young, so you promote ones to become sick? Obviously, you have never studied immunology, histology or even basic medicine.

I am not concerned that the Government "is putting" something into vaccines.. No! I am sure they have much more to worry about..I am much more worried about anti-government wacko's blowing up people (please see my location).. I know I have treated several more hundred injuries and those that died from those types in comparison of "supposed government induced" B.S.

Do I believe the parents should hand over the child ? I much rather prosecute them for neglect. If the child then becomes sick or ill from a known disease that could been prevented they should be prosecuted for child abuse, and the child taken away and placed into a loving home.

Again, it is apparent as well, you have never treated children or adults with diphtheria,pertussis, tetanus, mumps, measles. Do you think it is fair, for that child to spread chicken pox to all others.. or again spread undetected measles to a pregnant female?..... all it takes is a sneeze or the kid handling a door knob with his mucus slobbery hand.

There is a reason for vaccinations... it has been well studied by scholars and medical researchers for years. Even many medical research scientists died testing vaccines so others might live.

Let's leave the paranoia to the pysch patients.

R/r 911

[SSG G-man]

Rid,

All I can say is =D> =D> =D>

[firescapes]

First off read carefully..never did I say the vaccine caused the pnuemonia...you assumed that, secondly I am only here to share my views.you seem to feel the need to attack and use sarcasim and thats too bad...but when one is on the defensive from no attack that should tell you something...you are right about one thing though, we are here to promote health...so on this matter I will say no more..just remmber me when news down the road tells you off new found medical info about side effects from various vaccines...

....maybe you already know ..if not it would't hurt for you to check out the main ingedients in some of the major vaccines. In closing I ask you and all others...don't give away your power and please try to think outside the box.

[chaser]

OK whatevever,

might be time to drop this one.

[chaser]

sorry double post, must be the flu shot