Do you still use "needled" drip sets prehospital?

[vs-eh?]

The red one requires a needle.

The green one is needleless.

We still (unfortunately) use a system that requires needles. We have some ghetto blunt canula attachment stuff, but no one ever uses it. 99% of the time the hospital changes over to a needleless drip set during their patient care. It makes no sense.

The only drug that we use (that I can recall) that requires a needle with the preload is adenosine. Obviously drugs that are drawn up require a needle, but they can be needleless when inserted into the set.

Certainly a greatly increased risk for needle stick.

[somedic]

Proving yet again you all are behind the times up there!

[vs-eh?]

Proving yet again you all are behind the times up there!

Do you really even want me to repsond?

[Just Plain Ruff]

ok, question for this wonderful group

Ok, you take a clean needle and syringe, draw up the drug, mix it in a bag or larger syringe. And bam, needle stick. How many would be worried about that stick other than the fact that they were pissed they were careless or stuck themselves?

[vs-eh?]

Ok, you take a clean needle and syringe, draw up the drug, mix it in a bag or larger syringe. And bam, needle stick. How many would be worried about that stick other than the fact that they were pissed they were careless or stuck themselves?

Clean or not, still an unpleasant experience. You are taking an undue risk in my opinion in the "often unpredictable nature of EMS" of using a needled device when in hospital a needleless option would always be used.

"Careless" is subjective.

[ncmedic309]

Our tubing has both ports on them. The majority of our medications can be given in the needleless port but some still require the use of the needle port.

[DwayneEMTP]

ok, question for this wonderful group

Ok, you take a clean needle and syringe, draw up the drug, mix it in a bag or larger syringe. And bam, needle stick. How many would be worried about that stick other than the fact that they were pissed they were careless or stuck themselves?

Ruff, I don't see the issue. Unless this is a trick question, it would seem you would re-glove and carry on...

Dwayne

Edit: Sorry...didn't notice I was in the ALS forum.

[JPINFV]

^

Is the ALS some sort of super secret and selective cult or something now? Strange, I never got that memo, just like that memo about the TPS reports.

[akroeze]

The red one requires a needle.

The green one is needleless.

We still (unfortunately) use a system that requires needles. We have some ghetto blunt canula attachment stuff, but no one ever uses it. 99% of the time the hospital changes over to a needleless drip set during their patient care. It makes no sense.

The only drug that we use (that I can recall) that requires a needle with the preload is adenosine. Obviously drugs that are drawn up require a needle, but they can be needleless when inserted into the set.

Certainly a greatly increased risk for needle stick.

You guys don't use the blunt syringes on those?

[itku2er]

We use all needless here..... we have ports on the tubing for the needled things like D 50 and anything else we need to push that requires a needle. and RUFF clean needle stick i wouldnt worry about i would just kick my own A$$ after the call was over for not being more careful.....

ITK