date line nbc - don't they ever learn

[Just Plain Ruff]

I think that the cops are over the top on this show because they are on TV and that taking down these guys looks good on TV and it also helps their department look tough on these people

I especially like the few guys who got down right away yet the officer had to knee them in the back as a means to subdue an already submissive subject.

I do agree with you Scaramedic but I think that these guys just have the "Hey MOM, I'm on TV" mentality

[Asysin2leads]

My question is when is Dateline going to do a sting operation on these kiddie beauty pageants? Because, in my opinion, anyone who dresses their six year old daughter up as a Vegas show girl or has them wearing daisy dukes needs to be put away.

[itku2er]

My question is when is Dateline going to do a sting operation on these kiddie beauty pageants? Because, in my opinion, anyone who dresses their six year old daughter up as a Vegas show girl or has them wearing daisy dukes needs to be put away.

I agree with you there asys I will refrain from giving my 100% opionion on that one but i agree...and on the pedophile stuff I am with ladyemt51_2000 i can see objects that are dull and body parts that need to be missing slowly.......

TERRI

[Dustdevil]

How about we just lower the age of consent?

People are being arrested and convicted everyday for something that isn't even a crime one state line or national border over.

If our laws were in line with those of our neighbouring North American countries, the occurrence of this "crime" would be cut in half.

There now, wasn't that simple? :wink:

[EMTYegerDude]

I like the guys who have been asked if they ever the show and they say ya.

sara

[FireMedic65]

whats with the dubin reference??

[WendyT]

Wendy, not to be critical but what in in the heck does your post have to do with pedophiles???? I don't see it, please enlighten me.

you mentioned Castration and I didnt mean this to be funny, it is obvious in anysense what it is that is done to females in a different country, should be a form of change here and no matter how serious it is that they feel that they cannot for some stupid reason keep them in jail because we know darn well they will re-offend. There should be no warnings saying if you do it again, and they will, then Castration should be applied.

But what one Crown judge told me, they have rights too and to castrate them would be inhumane.

The laws need to be changed before someone with a gun goes hunting.

When these pigs inflict hell of these children, women they are scarred for LIFE, and these pigs only spend 2 yrs less a day in jail, probation and the wearing of a tag. That's not enough for me, I want more, I want a longer stay of jail time, I want a housing community that says guess who lives there. One lives where my friend lives, on the fourth flr.

[VentMedic]

whats with the dubin reference??

See my previous post.

You can also find the info under Florida's Physician MQA license (or lack of) board.

[emtpsaveu911]

My husband has his masters in Social work and he is a counselor for a community resource center. He has to counsel the sex offenders in group and non group settings and he comes home so frustrated sometimes. Like just the other night he got this new guy who is in his seventies and he uses a walker to walk... anyway he was caught teaching his 10 year old granddaughter about sex by showing her, and he feels he did nothing wrong because she came to him and asked him about sex. :evil: This is the first time he was ever caught but obviously at seventy chances are this isn't his first time offending. I Don't know what the solution is. Love your kids, teach your kids what to watch for, and let them know they can tell you anything.

Beyond that, I don't think keeping our kids in a prison is the answer. But Ruffems I am absolutely with you The cops better get their before i do or there will be nothing left to arrest, except for me.

[Urbanmedic461]

whats with the dubin reference??

Doctor's arrest upsets his nudist neighbors

ST. PETER5BURG TIMES, 1986

By ADAM NOSSITER, St. Petersburg Times Staff Writer

LAND O'LAKES-Resident of a Pasco nudist resort are "extremely upset' about the jailing of one of their neighbors, Dr. Dale Dubin, on child pornography charges, a resort official said Monday.

Dubin, a well-known plastic surgeon in Tampa, bought a $104,000 condominium in the Paradise Lakes resort in 1984 but rarely used it, vice president Chuck Foster said. The luxuriously furnished condominium was searched by postal authorities last Mondav but they found no pornography, the official said.

But in a search of Dubin's $310,000 house in Lutz, police found more than 200 explicit films and videotapes, including videos of preteens in sexual acts. Dubin, 46 was arrested and jailed last Monday night in Tampa. On Friday, he surprised his lawyers by opting not to seek bail, and is now in the custody of U.S. Marshals at a secret location.

He was charged with two counts of receiving child pornography through the mail and one count of using the mail to distribute obscene material.

Although few at the resort knew him, the residents are "very upset, extremely upset, because they don't want any black mark on our community," Fosler said in an interview.

Paradise Lakes, the second largest nudist resort in the country, is self-conscious about its image. The 4-year-old resort bills itself as a family place, and a sign by the swimming pool says overt sexual behavior is not allowed. "Overt sexuality is not condoned," a brochure says. Applicants are screened before being allowed in, according to the brochure.

Both Foster and general manager James Lake said Dubin came to his condominium only a few times during the year. Neighbors said they never saw him.

"The man's a recluse," Foster said. He said he had never met the doctor.

Dubin has already been barred from the club, and the condominium owners association will consider his expulsion at its next meeting, said Foster.

Residents have been thankful that the doctor's connection to Paradise Lakes had so far not been noted, Foster said. "We have to be protective as far as the people who live here are concerned," he said. "They like to be anonymous."

Dale Dubin Sentenced To Five Years

Proprietary to the United Press International 1987

March 7, 1987

A federal judge sentenced millionaire plastic surgeon Dale B. Dubin to five years in prison for what the judge called an obsession with pornography and cocaine that turned the doctor's life into a tragedy.

U.S. District Judge William J. Castagna told Dubin at a sentencing hearing Friday he could not see how a ''person of your talent, ability, education and interest in art,'' could have turned his life into such a ''tragedy and waste of such a rare and needed talent.''

Dubin pleaded guilty six weeks ago to 22 counts of child pornography and cocaine charges.

Eleven of the drug counts involved a 16-year-old girl who was seduced by Dubin with the help of pills and vodka and eventually agreed to participate in sexual encounters with Dubin, another 17-year-old girl and a 23-year-old woman.

Dubin videotaped some of the encounters for his pleasure. The incidents took place at two of his condominiums and the Pasco County nudist resort of Paradise Lake.

He is expected to serve his time in a minimum security facility where he will be able to receive drug counseling.

U.S. Attorney Robert W. Merkle, who prosecuted the case, told Castagna that no crimes ''are more violent than the use of child pornography and the distribution of narcotics.'' He said Dubin's attempt to minimize his activities as just a ''lifestyle'' was a ''new low in euphemisms.''

Merkle said it was particularly aggravating that Dubin used his medical knowledge to satisfy his own appetite and risk the lives and mental health of his victims.

Dubin, 47, stood with his head bowed throughout the 40-minute hearing Friday. Except for a few mumbled words about a letter to the judge, he did not say anything.

In that letter, Dubin complained of the ''lurid display'' of his case by prosecutors and claimed details of his activities were ''egregiously distorted'' by the press. He also spoke of his sexual escapades as examples of ''an occasional clandestine soiree.''

Dubin was arrested Aug. 11 at the mansion in Lutz, Fla. he called Hassle Free, after being sucked into a child pornography sting by sending off a $100 bill to buy films including ''Barbarian Girls.''

The Dubin story received extensive news coverage as his doctors unsuccessfully tried to have him committed to a mental hospital for treatment of what they called potentially suicidal depression, and Merkle countered by adding details of the case into the court record.