Armed for self protection

[Richard B the EMT]

This is going off topic:

While the USAF USED to be a part of the US Army, they are a separate agency now. I think the USAF version of a/an Army MP (Military Police) is a/an AP ("Air Police"). The US Navy has SP (Shore Patrol) for, obviously, patrolling on shore, and unless I was misinformed, they are armed only with batons/nightsticks. On ships, they have "Masters at Arms", or Marines to do Police duties.

If I am wrong on any of this, please correct me.

We now return to the topic at hand...

[Dustdevil]

While the USAF USED to be a part of the US Army, they are a separate agency now. I think the USAF version of a/an Army MP (Military Police) is a/an AP ("Air Police").

The "Air Police" name was retired in 1966 and replaced by the term "Security Police", to reflect the recently realised priority of air base ground defence. Security Police were divided into two categories; security specialists and law enforcement specialists, with specific roles for each, but some overlap. Although all were considered "SPs", individual SPs would refer to themselves as either SP or LE, depending upon their primary job. In 1997, some retarded general decided they should all be united under a more macho sounding name that projected their image as a warfighting force, and not a bunch of wankers in white hats, so all SPs were renamed "Security Forces", eliminating the term "police" from the ranks.

They sound more macho now, but in reality, they don't receive half the combat training that we did in the 70s, unless they are about to be deployed. But hey, as long as though sound tough, that's all that really matters.

All police officials in any military branch are correctly referred to as Military Police, regardless of what official label their specific service puts on them. Most Air Force cops will say they are Military Police when conversing with a non-AF person just for simplicity.

[Richard B the EMT]

All police officials in any military branch are correctly referred to as Military Police, regardless of what official label their specific service puts on them. Most Air Force cops will say they are Military Police when conversing with a non-AF person just for simplicity.

Sounds like a throwback to the old string on what we call ourselves when talking about ourselves at the cocktail party, again.

Anyway, thanks, Dust, for the updating.

[lizzieborden]

Let's see..I entered the US Air Force in 1995...we were Security Police back then...then I cross-trained into Airfield Management and stayed in that career field until 2004 and by then they were back to Security Forces...and yes, Security, Law Enforcement, CATM (Combat Arms Training and Maintenance), and K9 LE were combined (though you still needed separate tech school for CATM and K9...the second time through the career field, I was LE (on the road as a regular cop)...When we talked to regular civilians, we tended to call ourselves "Base Police" and when we approached a subject, we referred to ourselves as "Police"...In the AF, the last time I was deployed, the medics didn't carry arms...I didn't know of any combat medics in the AF...the closest thing the AF has to combat medic is para-rescue...and of course they are armed...I was simply referring to regular medics, since that is the only experience I have...I have never, EVER, been in the Army Hoorah for the Army though because I tell you, those guys and gals are incredible!

[Canadian Caesar]

This is going off topic:

While the USAF USED to be a part of the US Army, they are a separate agency now. I think the USAF version of a/an Army MP (Military Police) is a/an AP ("Air Police"). The US Navy has SP (Shore Patrol) for, obviously, patrolling on shore, and unless I was misinformed, they are armed only with batons/nightsticks. On ships, they have "Masters at Arms", or Marines to do Police duties.

If I am wrong on any of this, please correct me.

We now return to the topic at hand...

Well... So much for getting back on topic, huh? Now look what you started! :wink: JK

I never knew how convoluted Military Nomenclature could be!

Learn something new every day...

[Dustdevil]

In the AF, the last time I was deployed, the medics didn't carry arms...I didn't know of any combat medics in the AF...the closest thing the AF has to combat medic is para-rescue...and of course they are armed.

Where were you deployed that the medics weren't armed? :shock:

AF medics in combat zones have been armed as far back as Vietnam, at least that I can remember. I can assure you that all the AF medics, nurses, physicians, PAs, and even medical administrators I work with in Iraq are all armed with both an M9 and a fully tricked out M4 that the SEALS would be jealous of. Walk into any aid station and there is a rack full of M4s sitting there that belong to the staff.

[RGalyon0911]

Combat Medic. 68Whiskey are armed with a sidearm. Medic's who are in an infantry unit on the front lines do carry automatic weapons.

[jmp6753]

In my area there are SWAT/TEMS (Tactical EMS) paramedics. The are deployed on all SWAT ops. The only caveat to that is that to be on the team you also have to be a commissioned law enforcement officer. So we have actually lost a couple of paramedics to full time deputy sheriff positions. Most of the other TEMS medics are reserve officers for the sheriff's office or other local cities.

[pfdffemt82]

Armed at home and in the car still tryin to get my boss and my fire chief to let me carry my m4 at both my jobs no luck yet and to my defence i have been shot at twice in in 6 yrs will runing on the white taxi

[Doczilla]

Good grief. The grammer, the spelling, the punctuation. I'm dumber for having read that post. #-o

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