HOW FAR WOULD YOU GO . . . .

[itku2er]

I say GO jugular that is the vein I like the most.

[kitkat]

2 attempts, (each) if we have the training levels avalible, but, take in time consideration and situation. IO for adult cardiac arrest, after 2 IV attempts, we just implemented IO's. Peds get IO's but stays restriticted to specific group of providers. (high risk-low volume)

[JakeEMTP]

  itku2er said:

I say GO jugular that is the vein I like the most.

I'm with Terri. Go big or go home .

We are aloud 2 attempts each. As Kitkat said, depending on the situation, we might use the EZ IO first.

When I give blood I also have the 2 stick rule. Alas, they seem to hit my left AC on a fairly regular basis. With a 16g no less! Can't wait to have the roles reversed. :twisted:

[ForeverEMT]

I feel like you should have had some right to request it. I agree tho i might not have gone there if they already had a sign posted up. To me that seems a little crazy to poke 5 times and then pick something different

[speedygodzilla]

I draw labs where I work and all we use is butterfly needles. I generally get it the first stick, however I have only been doing it for less than 4 months so I try as many as three (depending on if me and the patient are still comfortable) than I call another. I have had very few patients not let me get to three tries.

I don't quite understand why they don't use butterflies. That is all I ever use, as I am quite comfortable with them.

[spenac]

  speedygodzilla said:

I have had very few patients not let me get to three tries.

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You can have 3 trys if I can hit you 3 times. If you can't get it in 2 probably never going to get it. Call someone better than you to get my blood.

[Dustdevil]

  kitkat said:

2 attempts, (each) if we have the training levels avalible...

Yet another argument for dual medic trucks.

[speedygodzilla]

  spenac said:

You can have 3 trys if I can hit you 3 times. If you can't get it in 2 probably never going to get it. Call someone better than you to get my blood.

For the most part you are correct, however sometimes the third time is the charm.

[spenac]

  speedygodzilla said:

For the most part you are correct, however sometimes the third time is the charm.

With that logic I could say but sometimes the 10th time is the charm. :wink:

[speedygodzilla]

  spenac said:

With that logic I could say but sometimes the 10th time is the charm. :wink:

LOL it better be, as if anybody would want to stick or get stuck that many times for a simple blood test.