"Paramedic's save lives, EMT's save Paramedics"

[BushyFromOz]

Most of you bicker on here like a bunch of children.

Congratulations, you have JUST done the same thing you accused others of :roll:

[aussiephil]

Most of you bicker on here like a bunch of children. The term isn't about catching mistakes. It's designed to state how the two should adapt to work together. Example. Working a code or serious trauma. Your a basic. You can intubate (well, they can here) and are capable when it comes to injury management. So while your securing the airway via Adv. Airway technique or what have you, the medic can be doing something more worthwhile to his skill level such as admin the required IV therapy. Basic can be controlling bleeding or continuing to manage airway while the medic monitors cardiac activity or admin's appropriate defib. Think outside the box. This debate is just stupid. Grow up.

The question I will ask here is at a code, what is the most important:

1. Airway Management.

2. Effective CPR

3. Early Defibrillation

4. IV Drug Therapy.

If you think IV drug therapy is the right answer, then I am sorry, wrong answer. Evidence has proven (leading to the protocol changes for codes) that effective CPR & Early defibrillation are the most important.

If you wish to use an example, then please ensure you have the facts right.

Oh, sorry, this could be consrued as being childish & child like.

[Asysin2leads]

Wrong, 68W. As Airway is the most important objective, even if I'm working with a basic who "can intubate" (shudder), they will not be going anywhere NEAR the airway kit unless they want me to name the bones in their fingers as I break them. If its not a difficult stick, I can usually get access and push a medication in approximately 20 to 30 seconds. Then I'll switch place and do the intubation. Hell, if it really came down to it, I'd get access, draw up the med, then have the basic push it while I get in position for intubation. I don't care what the state or medical director was smoking when they came up with your protocols, basics don't touch the advanced airway kit.

And as for bleeding, basics may control bleeding a couple of times out of all of the calls they do. I control bleeding everytime I start an IV. Guess who's better at it?

[CBEMT]

I dont think its a good idea for a City noob with two posts to his name to start criticizing others

Who cares what his post count is? It's a free country. He can say whatever he wants, so long gas he's willing to accept the response.

Hell, if it really came down to it, I'd get access, draw up the med, then have the basic push it while I get in position for intubation.

LOL, I remember that thread.

[FormerEMSLT297]

[Dustdevil]

LOL, I remember that thread.

That was a classic!

I would put that thread in the "EMT City's Greatest Hits" album!

[akroeze]

I would like to point out that there has been very little response from non-medics in this thread despite how often we hear this saying....

[spenac]

As a basic and then an intermediate I save my Paramedics butt all the time. OOPS wait no actually sadly most of the time I am the highest level available. But if I had a Paramedic on board I could save them by buying them a cup of coffee after each call. I could well really I can't do anything that another Paramedic could not do. I really bet that the one Paramedic we have wish's he did not have to make every serious decision when he is on with us BLS guys. Well hopefully one day I will be able to better help our Paramedic when I become a Paramedic.

[Scaramedic]

But if I had a Paramedic on board I could save them by buying them a cup of coffee after each call.

Make it a Diet Pepsi and you can be my partner.

Peace,

Marty

[Code 8 Paramedic]

No No No... Diet Coke for me... stop at the 7-11 and get me a super big gulp!